Paddock group – (1 gelding, 3 mares) Can it work?
Hey horse lovers,
My 11-year-old Icelandic gelding has been with a 21-year-old warmblood mare, which worked out great. The two naturally bond over the most when she's in heat. My boy gets a bit carried away, too, and has even had his front hooves on her hindquarters.
We've now integrated a 10-year-old coldblood mare into the group. The result: The warmblood mare became in heat again after a few days and also tried to take my Icelandic horse away from the coldblood mare. The Icelandic horse keeps running away from the warmblood mare to the coldblood mare.
I think the two somehow worked things out before the heat, and when the coldblood mare pins her ears back, the warmblood mare is now well-behaved and gone. The warmblood mare was described to me as high-ranking and likes to send horses around.
First, my boy got a blow to his leg (I think he just got in the way; he usually avoids arguments), but it's healed now. The vet came to see the warmblood mare. The mare wouldn't go back into her stall without painkillers. Well, that's looking better now, too.
Kalti and Isi are now standing together as a pair and are standing very close together all day.
Now the next new addition is here: a petite small horse mare (I suspect a mix of Spanish and English Thoroughbred). The owner has never owned a horse before and is completely new to the equestrian scene, and she's now freaked out after hearing about the thick legs.
(The Isi and the small horse mare share a common paddock which is directly adjacent to their paddock boxes and already know each other; the Isi is sent by her).
Incidentally, the cold-blooded mare was previously part of a large herd of horses and no such incidents are known in relation to the mare.
I think the warmblood mare challenged it because it suited her. Her heat doesn't seem conducive to the group….
But really, it could also be my boy's fault. He's already stallion-ready for a gelding with girls, but only when the mare is in heat. The warmblood mare demands that he always be close to her. Now my Isi is showing this strong closeness to Kalti as well, even though she doesn't demand it (but clearly enjoys it)…
It can't take forever for the next one to come into heat🙄 the warmblood hasn't been in heat as often as she is now for years, she hasn't had a foal yet, just like the other two mares.
What do you think can it work?
Is the small horse mare’s concern justified?
Should one isolate the horse during estrus to avoid trouble (at least perhaps initially)?
I've heard that stallion geldings aren't good for herds, and I'm a little worried that the problem is that he's a boy and likes to show it. He LOVES girls, and I'm actually really happy that he now not only has his playmate (a gelding) in the paddock, but also his own herd of mares in the pasture.
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can work, can also go completely into the pants.
all the considerations are superfluous.
but on one you can absolutely leave – as soon as another wallach comes, your isi gets beaten from all sides. according to your description, he is not a guide personality and a bit paddling.
the stubborn will somehow arrange themselves in any case.
it is not a sign of height when one of the stubborn likes to send other horses or better said – crowded.
a good guiding rod is correct in case of errors and otherwise leaves the other in rest. she sees her rank as self-evident.
Then the cold is more likely to be
Thanks for the information, yes it’s kind of crowding/feeding as well as always right, definitely an aggregate leader xD
an aggressive leader is always a stressed leader.
you can see a lot of what happens when something was done with the horse and it comes back to the others – whether it is greeted by whom it is greeted, how it is greeted, whether and how it is rehearsed, the body language of the horse and the other horses.
in a somewhat larger group of horses can also be another animal than the boss the guide.
in a larger group will always be a popular, balanced animal guide. balanced horses have the highest social intelligence. the high-level animals like to stay close to this horse.
in such a small group as yours, the others have no chance to exclude or overwhelm a high-ranking, lukecic animal. the lunatic stub would have to be in a bigger group.
Sorry, but that’s exactly what grottenschlechte’s Herdenmanagent looks like. All horses permanently under stress.
That’s all I’m saying. A No Go to put horses together!!!!
This will probably come to your integration concept.
In principle, I would not have made such a big flock change so shortly before the winter session.
That the mares become rusty with a wallach is normal and was to be expected, right?
A stallion’s wallach can be expected.
Why did you decide to join Stuten?
Herd reunification takes between 6-12 months.
If your horse reacts like this, he’ll be part of a pilgrimage group!