Obtain the practical part of the Fachholschulreife through work without training?

Hello everyone. I dropped out of high school after 12th grade (G9 model). This allowed me to obtain the academic qualification for a university of applied sciences. For 10 years, I've been working as a commercial clerk in a skilled trades business, but without any training.

Would this job fulfill the practical part of the Fachholschulreife (qualification for higher vocational education)?

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26Sammy112
4 months ago

For Baden-Württemberg:

How do you get the professional qualification?

It is necessary to attend the first stage of the course system and to leave the school without a general university maturity.

The school system consists of two elements: the school and the professional part. Only when both parts have been successfully completed is the certificate of the professional qualification with a recognition in all federal states except Bavaria and Saxony.

After the successful existence of the school part of the vocational training course, the vocational part follows. The professional part of the vocational training course is demonstrated by:

– a minimum of two years of vocational training in a recognized training profession, in accordance with the Vocational Training Act or the Crafts Code or in an equivalently regulated training profession; or

– at least two years of vocational training, if necessary in connection with an internship; or

– at least two years of vocational training in a public service relationship; or

– an internship of at least one year in accordance with paragraph 2 of the Regulation on Higher Education; or

– a voluntary social or ecological year, military or military service or the federal volunteer service.

The Gymnasium shall be presented with appropriate certificates or evidence of performance after completion of practical activity. After examination of the documents, the school shall issue the certificate of the professional qualification.

This means that a professional activity without vocational training is not sufficient to obtain the practical part of the vocational training system.

One possibility, however, would be that your employer confirms part of your job as an internship?

sasnrw
4 months ago

In NRW I only had the subject with a school part. In my case (specialization in the field of BWL) it was possible to obtain the practical part either with a one-year internship or with an apprenticeship.

Important for the operation for the internship: At that time (2014/2015) there was the additional scheme that the leading shareholder had to have an official instructor license. There were also rules for the number of weeks.

sasnrw
4 months ago
Reply to  sasnrw

Supplement: At that time, I could not even inform the competent Ministry of Education. My mother had telephoned up to the education minister in Berlin for several days to get the necessary information. According to my case, all education ministries in each federal state should be informed again about the respective regulations so that other pupils do not get the same problems as I do.

Tip: Write to both your school and the Ministry of Education in your country at the same time. You don't lose time. With me, the statements of my school had turned out to be wrong.

Love and good wishes to you

Sasnrw (29 years, f)

ThaliaNaMi
4 months ago

Yes, if you're studying at a university after 11 years

LuClRa
4 months ago

No!