Does a large PC still have a place? I read here and there that mini PCs are very powerful.
What is the real difference in performance?
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It is difficult to say that if 20% of the power is dispensed with, one does not even have half the power requirement and correspondingly much lower temperatures. Most people then choose to build a large PC to have the entire performance with the large cooling solution instead of saving space but for less power to spend the same money. Such a mini PC with rtx 4070 will at best be even slightly stronger than a normal computer with rtx 4060ti
For many, such a mini-PC can suffice. But it must be clear that there is also a lot of power potential and modularity on the track.
In your example, a desktop CPU is installed, but the graphics card comes from the laptop area. So, even if the name suggests something else, the system “only” brings the performance of a good gaming laptop. And later a new GPU is stuck, if the FPS is no longer enough, it is not possible, because this is not a PCIe card.
And it can also not be different because physics does not allow it. You can only transport a certain amount of waste heat per cm3 cooler. Modern Halo cards consume 450Watt under full load, for a short time also more. And you can’t handle it in such a small case. For the maximum power, therefore, a size which probably exceeds the volume of this housing by at least a factor of 10 is also required.
PS: I also find the compilation of this system for gamers not ideal. For most titles, the GPU becomes an unpleasant bottleneck. Therefore, I see a combination of laptop CPU + desktop GPU as better, so what Intel has long done with its extremes. Also, due to the waste heat, you should not put any Intel CPUs here at the moment. AMD has significantly improved efficiency in the cabinet.
Then you should read less somewhere and inform yourself properly. A lot of fun there is a 4090 for the same price to get me in.
A large PC definitely has its existence. The price-performance ratio for these mini-PCs is still groundless, as with laptops. For the performance you get in a normal tower PC, the Mini PC pays the double if no more.
In addition, a tower PC can be upgraded. If any component needs to be exchanged or you want to upgrade one, it’s relatively uncomplicated. With these mini PCs, for example, I would not have a plan where I should get a suitable graphics card.
And with this we come to the third problem: the cooling capacity. These mini PCs lack cooling options. So if you don’t want to add a water-cooled thing to you (if there is the option at all) that will cost you your existence, I would stay with the normal PC.
Even with normal PCs, there are ways to configure them in a more pleasant size. for example with nem mini ATX motherboard + matching housing. However, it is then necessary to be careful with the dimensions that the remaining components also find room in such a small housing. Ne RTX 4090 will probably not be able to build in nen mini ATX Case
I would therefore always recommend a standard PC. With then also the larger ATX motherboard etc
“A big PC definitely has its existence. The price-performance ratio for these mini-PCs is still groundless, as with laptops. For the performance you get in a normal tower PC, the Mini PC pays the double if no more.”
This is more a problem of “offering and demand”. niche products have niche prices. If these devices were to arrive in a broad mass, prices would also be purging, because they are not more expensive to produce.
No, the prices wouldn’t purse. After laptops, there is a similarly high demand for Tower PCs, yet with these the price-performance ratio is worse, as it is technically more difficult and more complicated to get the same power to a smaller volume of PC
You call Apple in a discussion about price performance? Wow.
In addition, the point was not the cost, but the feasibility for the normal consumer. The 0815 laptop user will not be able to braz on his laptop, but will be able to buy completely new laptop for more performance, which is more expensive than to exchange individual components such as CPU or graphics card for more performance.
It’s nice that you have a lot of idea of technology, but for most people on the electronic device it’s already a challenge to put the HDMI cable into the graphics card instead of the motherboard =)
Just because you get offensive, you’re not right. You’re just wrong.
But let’s start with your writing at the beginning. Also small things were even more expensive, now the screen is at a laptop “Billo”. The expensive for LCD panels is the pixel density and is higher for laptop panels. So the panels per CM2 are also higher. And for your example in performance, call acute examples. I can figure out numbers, too.
When soldering, you’re completely wrong. It is much cheaper on 1 board to fry all components instead of keeping the system modular. Do you think Apple does that, for example, because it’s better for the customer? Ask yourself what’s more complicated? The chips are the same, the conductor tracks have the same sizes that are PCBs as the name already says printed, and is not soldered by hand.
In the last paragraph, I wonder about the relevance. What do your screwdriver skills have to do with how expensive it is to make a laptop or PC? What do you think, how long in manufacturing a human being had such a mini-PC, as in the question here? These are minutes. If you like screwing, you’re gonna break things. There’s only one circuit board in the dingers, maybe slots for DIMMs and ne SSD and that’s it. And the slots for the DIMMs and SSD are optional. They don’t exist in a MacMini, for example. There’s only seconds at Foxconn that the thing was fired by a human.
Boah I hate those better-wissers who are wrong. So’n small Billo screen from nem laptop plus mouse and keyboard never cost as much as you pay for difference to the Tower PC + periphery. Let’s say you want the performance of a 1000 Euro PC, then you pay a maximum of 500 Euro for peripherals as an Ottonormal consumer for screen, mouse and keyboard, often less. About 1.5k. In order to get a laptop with similar performance, 2000 euros will quickly go over the table.
To brazing on a board is also much more challenging than putting a few components in the matching slots of an ATX board.
You have to start from the normal consumer on such questions. Someone who makes a lot of PCs can make a lot of a laptop with their own knowledge and skills. It now does not reflect the average PC user, but has niche skills. I’ve been making PCs myself for years, having a lot of devices disassembled and assembled, but I couldn’t do it on a board anyway.
You’re wrong. They are better in terms of price/performance. You can’t just count on the tower of the PC. A laptop also includes the entire periphery.
And no, it is absolutely not cumbersome at all. It is even much simpler because you can solder all components to a board.
Both have its existence authorization, e.g. for Office applications I find such MiniPC reasonable, but if it takes a lot of power I would rather trust on a desktop PC (of course both with appropriate hardware)
Do Mini PCs have any right of existence?
Mini PCs are:
weaknesses
Heavy upgrading
Less esthetish
And it also has something to build his PC itself.
depends on what you need