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norbertk62
1 month ago

I don’t know if we should get into such discussions with breast milk. Nature has created it differently (both vegan or vegetarian), so you shouldn’t bend around.

There is also an automatic discussion: if you are talking about breast milk, you should also discuss sperm. I think: no matter what – if you feed vegan replacement products, no one would really work anymore. If there’s something, please info to me – I’ll learn every day.

norbertk62
1 month ago
Reply to  Mariamagshart

Not necessarily. Just that nature has provided the whole thing differently. Look at pure plant-eaters, because of cattle. They have a completely different digestive system, a longer intestine, several stomachs (the thing with ruminants). Evolution was thinking.

If we change this by decree now, I don’t think that’s right.

norbertk62
1 month ago

Right – you have to think through to the end. I haven’t noticed yet.

Haaalloo1234
1 month ago

Depends on what breast milk you mean. Cow milk is also breast milk. Cows do not give milk because the cows are, but because they have received a child, like people, dogs, cats, etc. Sie produce the milk to feed her child. Dairy cows in the dairy industry are therefore almost perpetual, so they have to bring a calf to the world. The calves are usually separated from their mothers shortly after birth. Dairy cows were grown so high that they produce more and more milk.

( https://www.tierschutzbund.de/tiere-themen/tiere-in-derlandwirtschaft/rinder/milchkuehe )

But I think you mean breast milk from people?

Yes, it is vegan when human mothers breastfeed their children with their breast milk.

Here also contributions:

https://www.peta.de/themes/ist-muttermilch-vegan

https://vegpool.de/magazin/ist-stillen-vegan.html

Definition of Veganism:

“The aim of veganism – and this also shows the definition of the Vegan Society – can only be to prevent exploitation and cruelty and to limit suffering and killing to the minimum possible.”

Haaalloo1234
1 month ago
Reply to  Mariamagshart

Depends on whether they do this by themselves without being exploited, etc. or whether it is forced to be exploited and ill-treated, it must get a child after another, which you will then be taken off and then at some point when the milk yield even leaves to be killed.

If this is the first one, it does not speak against the definition of veganism.

Haaalloo1234
1 month ago

This also does not speak against a vegan way of life, so according to the definition of veganism it is to be regarded as vegan.

SpookyBatwing
1 month ago

Yes of course:

Yes, it is vegan when human mothers breastfeed their children with their breast milk. If a mother wants to give her baby the breast or offer him a bottle filled with breast milk, it is ultimately a voluntary, natural process behind which there is no exploitation or compulsion. Because the human body produces breast milk for the purpose of feeding the child and with all necessaryNutrientsto provide. Human breast milk is the species-friendly diet for a human infant and therefore vegan.

https://www.peta.de/themes/ist-mothermilk-vegan/#:~:text=Human%20Mothermilk%20the%20sartjust,Kuhmilch%20small%20snot%20vegan.

Yoinx123
1 month ago

Actually, not, but otherwise the use is completely okay. As you write, you do not take it away from any animal :

And the milk is produced after birth anyway.

Pumping and disposing would be too bad.

Yoinx123
1 month ago
Reply to  Mariamagshart

Sure. Are you in the situation or soon?

Haaalloo1234
1 month ago
Reply to  Yoinx123

Yes, it is vegan when human mothers breastfeed their children with their breast milk.

Here also contributions:

https://www.peta.de/themes/ist-muttermilch-vegan

https://vegpool.de/magazin/ist-stillen-vegan.html

Pumping and disposing would be too bad.

That’s right. There are for healthy mothers who have a significant excess of milk also have the possibility of donating breast milk, i.e. the excess milk.

“Mother’s milk, in particular, can protect premature babies from serious diseases and support their best possible development.

Not always the mother has enough milk after birth. If, for example, mothers themselves have to take certain medicines or are treated with chemotherapy, they cannot breastfeed their children. ‘

Yoinx123
1 month ago

I wish you all the best and that everything works with you.

Elli113
1 month ago

The human being is a mammal and in this respect breast milk is also an animal product.

However, breast milk is vegan because it is the food intended by nature for human babies.

Also mammals, which otherwise only feed on plants, feed their young children with milk (e.g. sheep, horses, cattle, elephants, giraffes, koalas, etc.)

Somehow vegans also need to feed their infants and since breast milk substitute food is NOT vegan, but contains cow or goat milk, as a vegan alternative (without the use of animals) only breast milk remains.

melia892
1 month ago

People are also animals at least mammals…

For me it wouldn’t be vegan

It is not by plants

TofuMaus
1 month ago

Human breast milk for his own offspring is naturally vegan. This is the most vegan thing there is

TofuMaus
1 month ago
Reply to  Mariamagshart

again

werwiewas99
1 month ago

Mother’s milk is considered a vegan, yes.

werwiewas99
1 month ago
Reply to  Mariamagshart

Are you the infant? Probably not. If you continue to process and sell it, it will probably not be classified as vegan.

MertIs
1 month ago

Since there is no “holy book of veganism” or even no “hohes court of veganism”, everyone is still allowed to decide what is still part of the minded diet for him personally, which is in order for him personally, and what is not.

Thought the first vegans would of course still their child, but have already read the opposite.

Haaalloo1234
1 month ago
Reply to  MertIs

Even according to the definition of veganism, it is vegan when human mothers breastfeed their children with their breast milk.

HONEY596
1 month ago

Since she comes from a human, she’s vegan.

HONEY596
1 month ago
Reply to  Mariamagshart

Please

RubberDuck1972
1 month ago

As I understood veganism, breast milk is not vegan.

Harvey1102
1 month ago
Reply to  Mariamagshart

Yes. A mammal to be exact.

RubberDuck1972
1 month ago
Reply to  Mariamagshart

Then you’re a plant or a mushroom?

Haaalloo1234
1 month ago
Reply to  RubberDuck1972

Depends on what breast milk is. Cow milk is also breast milk. Cows do not give milk because the cows are, but because they have received a child, like people, dogs, cats, etc. So they produce milk to feed their child. Dairy cows in the dairy industry are therefore almost persevering, so they must bring a calf to the world. The calves are usually separated from their mothers shortly after birth. Dairy cows were grown so high that they produce more and more milk.

( https://www.tierschutzbund.de/tiere-themen/tiere-in-derlandwirtschaft/rinder/milchkuehe )

Here also contributions to the question whether breast milk is vegan:

https://www.peta.de/themes/ist-muttermilch-vegan

https://vegpool.de/magazin/ist-stillen-vegan.html

Definition of Veganism:

“The aim of veganism – and this also shows the definition of the Vegan Society – can only be to prevent exploitation and cruelty and to limit suffering and killing to the minimum possible.”

Harvey1102
1 month ago

Yes, but eggs are laid by birds and reptiles. What you do is egg cells. You can now also discuss whether an egg is an egg with a hard cell shell, but it will be too exhausting to me.

Harvey1102
1 month ago

Yes ne is clear