Muss man zwingend abhängig werden von benzos?
Oder gibt es auch Leute die nicht abhängig werden weil sie es wegen einen klaren Indikation nehmen und nichts anders hilft . Ich habe diverse antidepressiva durch sowie lyrica und ein paar neuroleptika . Keines hat geholfen . Ich habe auch irgendwo mal gelesen das es Patienten gibt die nur auf benzos ansprechen. Dann wären noch die Nebenwirkungen aufs Herz Kreislauf System . Die sind oft schwerwiegender bei antidepressiva und neuroleptika. Also warum keine Langzeitbehandlung mit benzos . Ich habe nie die Dosis gesteigert und die angstlösende Wirkung ist immer noch da . Warum sich mit antidepressiva herumquälen wenn keines anschlägt ?
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If benzodiazepines are taken only at points and not too often, a development of tolerance and dependence can be avoided.
However, they are not suitable as a control medicament because of the aforementioned tolerance development. Those who take benzodiazepines every day do not feel any effect from the initial dose – the house number for the “irgendwann” here are a few weeks. Then you have to increase the dose. Then go back a few weeks and the patient becomes tolerant again. Then you have to increase the dose again. A vicious circle until the maximum dose is reached at some point and you can no longer increase. Then the horror of the settling starts from the maximum dose.
The patient is already dependent.
Do you know from your own experience that you had to increase the quantities?
Yes, it’s just like I wrote: At some point, the double dose is needed to feel anything. And that goes on gradually.
Hello,
”until the maximum dose is reached and you can’t increase any more”
does not mean you can feel any effect no matter how much you take?
Thanks for the answer. I don’t know it like that for me.
I wrote it. I do not have a benzodiazepine withdrawal yet, but a tolerance development from 1mg to 2.5mg Tavor already. This is practice 😉
That wasn’t my question. I know that you know very well, but in practice, something looks different.
Benzodiazepines have a very high dependence potential when taken regularly and daily. Your question, however, is unnecessary, since you are unfortunately already dependent. When is the stationary recording date?
Don’t go to any stadionary withdrawal
That’s your decision.
And in a clinic, no ten horses take me away.
The dependence potential in benzos is immensely high and above all the effect decreases.
Do you know this from your own experience?
I had enough benzo patients to make extensive observations. I myself took benzos for a short time, about 4 weeks. Even noticed how quickly the dose has to be increased for an effect and then I went out by dropping because I was aware of the danger and have sought other ways to solve my sleep problems instead of taking the path to unhealthy forced sleep.
In addition, I have been subject to chronic pain for several years.
It is necessary to take account of dependencies that there are 2 different. Once the purely physical, which often arises at Medis, also at many, where no laie thinks about it. And then the psychic rail.
The physical dependency is usually handled quickly by slipping out the drug. The psychic is not.
Benzos are often encountered as sleeping agents, besides the anxiety bar. Here it is noticeable that they lose the effect very quickly. Then there are 2 reactions. Once the patient sees that it doesn’t bring anything and makes the benzos out.
Then the other variant, where ever higher dosages are taken, also contrary to the advice of the doctor, which leads to conflict after a short time, because the prescribed amount does not match the prescription frequency. Here’s the psyche in the game. Playing like getting the benzos over various doctors often happens until it notices.
That sounds good. Many believe to have the ultimate experience when they only look at themselves 😉
I also understood that:-)
These are also not individual experiences, but bundled out of my work.
Thanks for the answer. I did not have these experiences you described.
Yeah, you’ll be physically dependent on that, so you can’t escape.
Unfortunately, it is the only medicines that help me
Wrong. You only have a completely wrong idea and expectation of it.
To really overcome an anxiety disorder, you must feel and allow a part of fear. Because you need this as an exercise area. You need to learn to deal with the fear and get clear when it comes. If you never learn this, you have to spend your whole life with the problem and always take medication.
Antidepressants do not act acutely, but generally. They raise your average mood, but do not prevent acute situations. But that’s how it should be. Because, as I said, it takes the acute situations where one can practice so that one can eventually create the problem from the world.
What you do is stubborn and cursed. This will make your healing incomprehensible.
You have to accept that you have these unpleasant feelings, and you have to face them and learn to stop them. Then it’s getting better.
Very correct and important!
Yes, benzodiazepines are forced to physically and mentally dependent. Some people need more, fewer. How fast someone depends on different factors…
In the case of a daily indication-related application of a standard dose, an average of 4-8 weeks is assumed until a dependency develops.
However, dependency is not the reason why long-term therapy with benzodiazepines should not take place. If benzodiazpines are now the only medicines that could help you to take a dependency calculated. The problem is different…
The Tachyphylxie (tolerance development). The tachyphylaxis describes the reconciliation to a pharmacologically active active compound with repeated administration. This slows down its effectiveness. To maintain the effect, the dose must gradually be increased. The result is that one is completely dependent at the end without having a positive effect. You only need the tablets to avoid developing withdrawal symptoms.
Consequently, benzodiazepines are not an option when it comes to the longer term treatment of anxiety disorders.
If you take them regularly you will quickly depend.
Yes I do not know other medicines help. And have unacceptable side effects for me.
The side effects of benzos are worse in the long term.