Motorcycle fell over 844€ liability?

Hello,

I rented a motorcycle and it fell over. The woman said that the price was too high for me. You can see the pictures of the damage in my last third question.

Handlebar weight KAW 44.80€

Mirror RE KAW 51,30€

PAD glider RE KAW 39.85€

Arrow Exhaust for 125 KAW €589.05

Working time 119€

Total: Plus taxes 844€

Does this all match the pictures I uploaded three questions ago? (I've uploaded them here again.)

She said the exhaust had to be completely replaced, but there were only small scratches on it and what about the old exhaust, which you can easily continue to use with only 1000km and a few scratches.

Why do I have to pay for a complete exhaust?

I'm just incredibly sad. I work for minimum wage while I'm at school, and that's three to four months' salary for me.

But no matter, you have to stand 🙁

I only had liability insurance from them with the rental agreement, so no comprehensive insurance.

Do I have a chance of them paying out if my motorcycle falls over while stationary and I buckle my leg?

I read on some sites that the liability insurance company paid everything without complaint. But maybe it was just an isolated incident.

Please don't throw anything else at me. I know I screwed up, and €844 really hurts me, because that's the last money I've saved. I just wanted to get out and rent a motorcycle because I missed it so much. And then this happens.

Thank you for your help

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slaytalix
4 years ago

most do not pay private liability policies for borrowed or rented “Sachen”

The parts and also the working values are expensive

Kunzinger
4 years ago

yes, I suppose it was also offered you full insurance and possibly also minimizing self-containing.

You didn’t take both of them and you’re on the cost.

Surely you can use legal aid, but otherwise you don’t get around to pay the amount. …

That’s their mash that doesn’t fix it all, but they’re paying for it.

korruptepolitik
4 years ago
Reply to  Kunzinger

it is generally offered only full-cass with high self-interest. If you cause damage, you will be there in any case for rented stock.

TechnikSpezi
4 years ago

The damages must be adjusted so that the motorcycle looks as before. If only small macks are in there, but you don’t just get them away, then the whole exhaust has to be renewed. It happens very quickly. I remember accidents with friends, where you didn’t see a scratch on the pictures, but the expert said that the whole door has to be replaced. It’s not unusual. If someone drives you in, you don’t have to live with scratches or macks. He or his insurance has to restore the vehicle to you as before (from the money).

In addition, in Germany, you get the money yourself. Whether you’re investing it in the vehicle, it doesn’t matter. For example, if you have an old car and he already has Macken, then many take the insurance money in an accident, but do not repair the vehicle at all. Or someone who knows his people or has a workshop himself, who then makes this for little money (e.g., to beg out instead of replacing whole part). As I said, this is not unusual and allowed.

Do I have any chances that they’ll pay if my motorcycle falls around when I bend in with the leg?

I’ve read on some pages that the liability without murmuring has paid everything. But it was just a single case.

Your liability insurance only pays damage to the victim if you were guilty of the accident. So you never pay your own liability for money. Either you messed up and she’s paying money to the victim of an accident, or someone else has messed up and his insurance pays you money.

First a partial or full-cassian pays damage to your vehicle when you have caused it yourself. In your case, of course, the thing is clear because the motorcycle has fallen. Whether you were inattentive or the wind was strong or anything else. The KFZ liability will not pay.

Conclusion:

So you’ll stay on the damage.

WECoyote
4 years ago

The problem is that the rental machine should be sold later. A damaged exhaust or other parts press the price. If everything is TipTop, the dealer can sell the motorcycle significantly more expensive.

It’s fucking annoying that this happened to you, but now you have to get up for the damage you caused.
You could ask the exchanged parts from the dealer, as you will finally pay them. Maybe you can still sell them on eBay and Co. and limit the financial damage.

alexs72
4 years ago

So I don’t know a commercial “renter” who works without full-cass (with sb)! Whether pkw, bike, womo or lkw! and I’ve already rented a number of vehicles! 😉 if I were renter, the risk would also be too big for me that the vehicle is damaged or stolen and the “library” is not at all capable of paying the damage!

berieger
4 years ago

Unfortunately, this is the case with landlords, I’ve already happened. If you rent the FZG, they will offer you a VK. If you don’t think it’s happening to you, you pay the price without a VK. And if you return the FZG completely undamaged (before photos taken) the thing is done.

But if then what is or they discover a damage that was not before. Then you’ll be ripped off by those mords because that’s for the extra money in the cash register. And so: They do not even repair at all, but give the FZG to a painter/workshop with which they work hand in hand under a blanket. It calculates each cupboard at the official price of which is approved by the indentation and, in addition, often the rental failure. And the repairer (possibly a private one) returns in a hidden way. That’s how it works. No corruption. That’s what happened to you now. And it’s all legal.

Nonameguzzi
4 years ago

Don’t pay the exhaust?

This would only go if the bulge was already damaged before then you would only have to pay the further impairment.

But if the new exhaust 500 does you only cost 200 numbers, how to bring the machine back to the original state from the money?

I’d say if a liability should pay your private liability insurance. You have one.

Evtl have one of your parents and you’re still falling under the contract terms?

skipworkman
4 years ago
Reply to  Manuplayz0305

Hi, there would definitely be a question. Mopped throwing around is quite expensive. And you know, if you want to sell a mopped with visible diarrhea, you get less than if everything is tip-top. My neighbours have thrown mine, which was dressed and that then cost about €2000. I could hardly believe it, but the original parts are arsxh expensive.

Love

Nonameguzzi
4 years ago
Reply to  Manuplayz0305

If something is covered in the contract terms, yes.

ZuumZuum
4 years ago
Reply to  Nonameguzzi

I’d say if a liability should pay your private liability insurance. You have one.

A private liability insurance never pays damages that are established from the use of a car.

Nonameguzzi
4 years ago
Reply to  ZuumZuum

Then it comes very hard to see how the machine fell… At a traffic lights forget to make your feet on the floor then you’re right.

If she stood there and he’s accidentally choking her up, they’d have to pay.

Is the question whether it fell during use.

ZuumZuum
4 years ago

No, it won’t. Damages arising from the use of a KFZ are not covered by private liability.

skipworkman
4 years ago

Hi and what blackhaya is ne super idee, let the broken parts give you and put it in at ebay. Maybe you’ll get half back in.

Love

blackhaya
4 years ago

The liability is out there, in every liability insurance there is the engine clause. This means that the damage associated with the operation of a vehicle is NOT paid.

When renting motorcycles there is almost always a full-cass insurance, only the self-assessment is usually 1500 euros, which will not take advantage of you.

If you can just give yourself the broken parts, so you can still sell an exhaust with scratches for 300 euros.

Gaskutscher
4 years ago

The damage is only covered by the full cover of the machine. If the Selbsbehalt is at EUR 2000, you must pay. See contract terms.

Private liability does not pay in charge.

korruptepolitik
4 years ago

Your private liability does not pay for motor-driven vehicles, often damages related to rental are excluded. So there are 2 reasons for exclusion.

At full casco, high SB is required at Krad almost everywhere, so you are always the loser when a rented cascade comes back damaged. That’s it.

With little money it is so important to be very careful. There’s something going on with motorcycles, too, but not to change now.

BBPB21
4 years ago

Private liability never pays damage arising from the use of a vehicle.

This is expressly excluded in each PHV.

Gummipunkt
4 years ago

I don’t see the costs you called. When I once went through the guilt of a car driver, footrests, brake levers etc. were broken on the right side, with a few shots, among others on the engine cover, headlights, blinkers and front fenders, the report showed everything in all over 2000 €.

Because you didn’t have cash insurance according to your own information, I don’t think you’re getting around to pay the repair. Even if there are “only” scratches in the exhaust, the damaged one has the right to move the vehicle back into an equivalent state as before the dropper.

But I’d let the broken parts hand me out, I think you’d have to claim that. If they are only visually impaired, but otherwise still usable, you might get a few euros on the used parts market and thus can mitigate your loss a little bit.