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julihan41
5 months ago

I am looking at tutorials

You won’t be 10 meters far. All Tutorials complete the topic of security and that is a big point. This includes:

  • (safety)updates check and maintain
  • Manage access control, regularly check
  • cure the server regularly against (new) attacks
  • Checking (Moderation) activities on your server

and much more. Server administration is not for nothing a separate profession. Otherwise, the server is quickly part of a botnet, distributes malware, throws cryptocurrency and other. See e.g. https://www.heise.de/news/Perfectl-Linux-Malware-laesst-Server-heimlich-Kryptomining-und-mehr-ausfuehren-9963118.html

Host a server at home in the LAN: clear, do it.

But do not make available for others. Not at all from your own network, because then you have a vulnerability in the system. The question is not whether attackers compromise your system, but when. And that’s not about you personally, but you take all the systems you can find. Specifies extra search engines that search the network on open ports and accesses.

And the spelling and grammar errors in your question don’t let me look confidently.

LUCKY1ONE
5 months ago
Reply to  julihan41

That’s totally overdoing. You don’t have to be a Sys admin to run home servers. You don’t have to expose your entire network directly. Use Docker and nen reverse-proxy, tunnel services or VPN. According to your logic, no one should run any more servers of any kind.

julihan41
5 months ago
Reply to  LUCKY1ONE

Use Docker and nen reverse-proxy, tunnel services or VPN.

Have you ever seen this in a tutorial on Minecraft? I want the link!

In principle, you’re right, but security is always neglected and server operation can be done as a layman, right? 🤦 ♂️

julihan41
5 months ago
Reply to  Marco759

I can’t, because I don’t know specifically about Minecraft.

julihan41
5 months ago
Reply to  Marco759

Next vulnerability 👍

julihan41
5 months ago

Just because I don’t have a total of >60 minutes at any time of day to watch random videos, it doesn’t make any statement about my perseverance. There are also people who do a job.

So I wouldn’t want to host a publicly accessible server – especially not at home. In today’s world, I could not sleep calmly. But whoever wants to take the risk does it. I don’t care.

LUCKY1ONE
5 months ago

As you can see, there are these tutorials. If you’re 15min video too long, you’ve hardly had the perseverance to acquire knowledge that will qualify you for an answer. That’s what I think everything is said.

julihan41
5 months ago

Give me a few weeks to look through these.

baumfrosch25
5 months ago

If you are hosting yourself, you have full violence over the server and more possibilities. It is also a bit more effort to rent a finished game server at Nitrado or whatever.

If the Minecraft isn’t worth the speech, you can do it well as a beginner.

Disadvantages include the electricity costs mentioned by you – your PC must always run if the server 24/7 is to be online. In addition, you need a stable internet connection – WLAN is absolutely not suitable for this.

In such cases, I would rather rent a small Linux VPS for a few euros a month, e.g. here: https://www.netcup.com/en/server/vps

baumfrosch25
5 months ago
Reply to  Marco759

I don’t have a Youtube video here, sorry.

julihan41
5 months ago
Reply to  baumfrosch25

For this, it is also a bit more effort,

Anything? A bunch of more work, as you have permanent updates in the eye and partially manually care in, which has to check and ensure safety and much more, otherwise the server is quickly part of a botnet, distributes malware, throws cryptocurrency and other. See e.g. https://www.heise.de/news/Perfectl-Linux-Malware-laesst-Server-heimlich-Kryptomining-und-mehr-ausfuehren-9963118.html Server administration is not for nothing a separate profession.

baumfrosch25
5 months ago
Reply to  julihan41

Forget about the middle part of interesting goals. In doing so, I have been able to hide automated attacks randomly – which is probably the majority of the attacks nowadays, but you know better.

baumfrosch25
5 months ago
Reply to  julihan41

We’re not talking about a business environment here, but a game server for him and his mates. Your safety concerns in all honors, but here you should leave the church in the village. Apart from the fact that “big” goals such as Nitrado and Co. are more and more interesting for attackers than microsystems of a private individual. Not every missed update leads directly to a compromise of the server. Anyone who wants to take any security update can also automate it wonderfully – for example with Cron.

julihan41
5 months ago

If you realize that it’s not going anymore. It is also very easy to hide that you have access to a server.

baumfrosch25
5 months ago

All right, I’m with you. I just think that in this scenario, it simply does not “pay” the extra mile. My approach would be automated updates from OS and the game server paired with regular backups. If it doesn’t work at some point – shit. Make new and play backup if necessary is a matter of minutes. 😬

julihan41
5 months ago

automated attacks by random

Right. They’re the problem. Hardly an attacker does this itself and seeks out the small server from the torst, but bots and search engines that are directed specifically to vulnerabilities and open ports find insecure servers that are then taken over – even partially completely automated. See perfctl virus, which checks out tens of thousands of unsafe configurations to register.

Anyone who wants to take any security update can also automate it wonderfully – for example with Cron.

Two things:

  1. every security update should always be taken along!
  2. With each (security) update, the configuration and running capability of the server software must be checked again.
DerVarex
4 months ago

I like to help have often been made “flocrafter.” on dc (point is important!!!)

Jonas223344222
4 months ago
Reply to  DerVarex

have you sent a request?

WasTueIchHier12
5 months ago

Well, hosting… do you mean completely yourself? Or a third-party, like Nitrado.

LustigerStiefel
5 months ago

Rarely host annoy because the server is down if your PC is not on and you have started the server and your IP also changes. You only have disadvantages and no advantages

baumfrosch25
5 months ago

You only have disadvantages and no advantages

Unfug. Even hosting does not necessarily mean that the server is operated on the local PC. There are many advantages here, starting with the costs. If you rent a VPS on it, it costs only a fraction – with more power, more slots or more simultaneous players.

LustigerStiefel
5 months ago
Reply to  baumfrosch25

Good buddy, I’ll never read you again!

baumfrosch25
5 months ago

Okay? 😂 Someone may not handle criticism and constructive advice.