Messer schärfen als Nebenjob?

Servus beinand. Als Fischer und Hobby-Koch hab ich meine Messer immer rasierklingenscharf, und bin mitlerweile echt gut drin, eine gscheide Schneide aus den stumpfsten Messern zu bekommen.

Nun dacht ich, ich hab Ausrüstung und Talent in etwas, was die meisten leute nicht haben – aber jeder hat ein Messer! Ich dacht auf Kleinanzeigen oder in der Zeitung ne Werbung, pro Messer 10eur (ca 10min pro Messer brauch ich)

Daher 3 Fragen:

  • Hat einer von euch das schonmal gemacht?
  • Was muss ich rechtlich und steuerlich machen? Ab 10eur im Jahr schon, oder erst ab einer bestimmten Summe?
  • Wird sich das überhaupt lohnen?

Danke!

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Mungukun
1 month ago

Has one of you ever done this?

No.

What do I have to do legally and tax? From 10eur a year, or from a certain sum?

A trade is then present as soon as the points of § 15 Abs 2 S. 1 EStG are fulfilled:

  • Sustainability
  • Self-employment
  • Winner intention
  • Participation in general economic transport

As long as you minor besides the consent of your parents, you also need Approval of the family court, § 112 BGB.

You need within a month from the first act register a trade, § 14 GewO, and transmit the questionnaire for tax collection electronically to the tax office, § 138 AO.

When and whether taxes are due will decide only later. The Registration obligation start immediately.

After the end of the year, you will have to determine the winner, § 60 para. 4 EStDV, and until 2023 the VAT declaration, § 18 para. 3 UStG, electronically transmitted to the tax office (Duty to pay). All this from you without a call from the tax office. The acquisition of the profit into the income tax statement is then the smallest part.

Income tax: Here the Profit (operating revenue – operating expenditure) taxed. Commercial or freelance income does not have its own allowance. There is the basic amount and all your income is included in it. Your second business, or any gross wage or income from rental and rent or pension, is also included. A mini-job, however, forms an exception if it is actually taxed on a flat-rate basis and your employer takes this flat-rate tax.

Trade tax: It will also be due to Profit. However, a fee of € 24,500 is deducted here. As long as you are below the allowance, there is no duty to pay.

Value added tax: So long Turnover is less than €25,000, you are a small entrepreneur. Then you don’t have to deduct sales tax, but you must also not pay sales tax and also do not withdraw the pre-tax.

If you are deducted from the small business (which means you would be bound for 5 years) or your turnover is higher, you will have to pay the sales tax. In return, you can claim the advance tax for your purchases.

Even if you illegally not registered should have operated the business without any necessary approval of the family court, but the tax duties to fulfil, § 40 AO.

Stahlratte
1 month ago

Yeah, you should do that. As an advertising platform, for example, I would like MyHammer.de. – I hope I wrote it right.

But you should sign up for a trade and, of course, also have to tax your income. Your tools, your workshop, your service vehicle (all available) can then be taxed when you earn profits.

chanfan
1 month ago

The times of the knife grinder are over. There are isolated shops that offer this by the way, but this has been a few years ago.

In addition, your 10 euros are too much.

This is a commercial service you must, of course, register. How are the knives coming to you with the post office, the rudder service, etc? What’s going to cost it or who pays it?

What about the warranty if the customer is not satisfied or if you break the knives?

I think that would have been a nice idea 15 years ago, but today it won’t be. :

You are best advised by the IHK in your area. There you will get all the information you need.

chanfan
1 month ago
Reply to  martinJgDe

In the end, you can try it. Maybe it works and that’s just the entrance to something bigger. :

NikkiMM
1 month ago

Can’t imagine it’s a profitable business.

The “knife fetishists” grind themselves, and the rest pulls this over a number of puppies or throws away the old knife and buys a new one. 😁

Mondovada3
1 month ago

No, it’s not worth it.

Previously, scissors drove through the streets and made this for small money

People had no interest…