Macht Nikotin abhängig oder der Tabak?

Ich habe in einem Forum gelesen, dass das Nikotin nicht süchtig macht, sondern die vielen anderen Stoffe in Tabakzigaretten.

Was meint ihr ?

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Laurette120
4 months ago

Nicotine is the main component of cigarettes that makes us addicted, but this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Another important additive is the ammonia compounds added during production to cover the hardness of the tobacco, so we are at least told. In fact, however, they also trigger a chemical reaction with nicotine, resulting in free nicotine. Free nicotine gets into the brain faster than normal nicotine, which leads to a more immediate and more intense reaction and strengthens the addiction.

Sugar is also added to taste cigarettes better

and remove the bitter taste of cigarette smoke. They lower the pH of cigarette smoke, making it less sharp and irritating, making smoking more attractive, especially for new smokers. But if these added sugars burn when igniting a cigarette, they form additional compounds, so-called aldehydes, which increase the effectiveness of nicotine and make cigarettes more addictive because the brain is more susceptible to nicotine and therefore absorbs it much faster.

Lavulic acid, another additive, is an organic salt which also covers the harsh properties of smoking and prevents the smoker’s neck from being irritated during smoking. It desensitizes the upper airways so that the cigarette smoke can be breathed deeper. It also makes the brain more susceptible to nicotine, which further strengthens the addiction.

Menthol is another important substance. It creates a cooling feeling when a smoker inhales. It is logically assumed that Menthol is added to help younger people to acquire the habit. My daughter is one of three menthol smokers in our family; she smokes Newport 100s (a very strong brand), she is obviously the most addicted of all of us.

Other reasons why many of us continue to smoke are that we can handle stress more easily, although we know that smoking is risky and dangerous. Many of us, in particular smoking working mothers like me, have to bring family, household and work under control today, and to light a cigarette is very welcome to let the day end. Many other of us, including me, find that smoking helps to keep the desired weight. Nicotine accelerates the physiological functions, i.e. the speed at which the body metabolizes food. When you stop smoking, the metabolism slows down, food is burned more slowly and you are increasing. This reason alone is a strong incentive for many of us to continue smoking.

PachamamaSquaw
4 months ago

Hello summer grill, 👋

Makes nicotine dependent…

No.

nicotine alone does not do

dependent and not addicted.

…or tobacco?

Yeah.

I read in a forum that the nicotine does not addict, but the many other substances in tobacco cigarettes.

This maybe?

An accurate and very competent explanation

by Ray in the comment. 👍

LG 🙋🏻

anwesende
4 months ago

is actually a well-known fact that the tobacco industry has done everything to keep people at the bar by as high a search potential as possible. Nicotine in combination with ammonia is just one of them. Nicotine alone doesn’t make addiction, otherwise all nicotine plasters would be useless.

m.f.G.

present

Elizabeth2
4 months ago

may be that it is not the nicotine, that is also unimportant what makes addiction or not. Smoking is harmful, unfortunately also for non-smokers (which is why the bans in restaurants etc.).

At most, it plays a role as to whether he can and wants to stop at all. But that’s why the cigarettes will never be sprinkled differently if it were. You can calculate why….

PachamamaSquaw
4 months ago
Reply to  Moritz5800

Here too, completely false and incompetent statements about nicotine and about e-cigarettes are spread❗️🤦🏻

Moritz5800
4 months ago

🤡

Franky1962
4 months ago

has already formulated it very closely.

https://youtu.be/UlDwcAeTtJY?si=rmqMLytgspDE4OlT

kami1a, UserMod Light
4 months ago

Nicotine alone does not sin. But when smoking a cigarette, about two liters of smoke and the 40 carcinogenic substances are released.

And there are also the addictions in there, beautiful evening

Waldi2007
4 months ago

It is the nicotine contained in the tobacco – a nerve poison that produces the plant for protection from pests.

PachamamaSquaw
4 months ago
Reply to  Waldi2007

No.

Waldi2007
4 months ago
Reply to  PachamamaSquaw

Oh, yes! I’ve been watching at school in Bio (LK to Abi)!

sunnymarie32
4 months ago
Reply to  Waldi2007

It is the nicotine contained in the tobacco – No, it’s tobacco smoke itself. “The nicotine is due” is now simply no longer durable, away from whether it is about the addiction or the damage.

I’ve been watching at school in Bio (LK to Abi)! – beautiful for you… so all the right that believe God has created the earth and the people, for at least that teaches the Bible. And all those who are the firm conviction that the earth is a disc are then also in the right, because that has been considered a fact at some point and taught to all? The fact that what has been considered to be secured can change with time also afacgh because life and science are evolving does not come to your mind?

Doccheck – sorry, but who still claims 2024 “For a person not used to nicotine, the unique dose of 60 mg can be fatal” and then with this stupid comment “However, the specification of 60 mg corresponding to an LD50 of 0.8 mg/kgKG is controversial in the literature.“, which is absolutely wrong, it is clearly refuted because “In a 2013 publication, it is assumed that this value stems from an uncertainly evident indication of a textbook published in 1906 by Rudolf Kobert t” that is also not only “presumed”, but also that is KLAR BEWIESEN: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3880486/ – the LD50 of nicotine lies in normal adults (about 70-80kg) at about 0.5-1 GRAMM nicotine in blood plasma – THE HIS GLAUBWIGKEIT

Planet knowledge – what does DAS have to do with the question whether it is nicotine or tobacco smoke, which is addictive? It’s a shame that the one that’s right in itself with this stupid comment “nicotine also damages the human body, at least it strengthens the course of numerous diseases.“but ruin it again, because it’s so simply wrong.

And Wikipedia – Have you ever read what is written there? Somehow not, otherwise you would have noticed that this article does NOT give you the right: “Nicotin is mainly with responsibility for the dependence on tobacco products“and “The addiction effect of nicotine is enhanced by monoaminooxidase inhibitors contained in tobacco smoke.” – if there were no addiction amplifiers in cigarette smoke, tobacco smoke would not be addictive to how many exclusive pipe and cigar smokers can confirm.

sunnymarie32
4 months ago

Oh. I have read the question, I have even understood it and even if you don’t believe it, I have the necessary knowledge to answer it.

VodkaGin
4 months ago

Then read again the question Grüni

sunnymarie32
4 months ago

You want to talk good about smoking, – she doesn’t smoke. And sorry, but using for the truth is not a “good” thing. It is also not a bad thing to say about tobacco smoke “the one is carcinogenic”.

So the tobacco is addictive or what – No… not “addiction“but ONLY tobacco smoke is even addictive, tobacco-free nicotine is not addictive,

PachamamaSquaw
4 months ago

No,

first, I don’t want to talk good

and secondly I do not!

So the tobacco is addictive or what?

An answer to this question with a very accurate and excellent explanation can be found by Ray in my commentary.

VodkaGin
4 months ago

I think you want to talk good about smoking. So the tobacco is addictive or what?

PachamamaSquaw
4 months ago

By the way:

Opinion

the individual expert

Prof. Dr. Bernhard-Michael Mayer

University of Graz

Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences

….

The classification of nicotine

as addiction of

Current literature

not supported [8]!!️

….

https://www.bundestag.de/resource/blob/406882/cd97fbcb034b483eca519b5dcfdf5e67/stellungnahme_mayer-data.pdf

PachamamaSquaw
4 months ago

No.
You’re spreading incompetent false information here!

Nicotine is a poison!

Yes, but

—> NUR🦟INSETS🐞🪳🪲🦗🐞

But NOT for people❗️

Is nicotine a poison?

O. Univ.-Prof. Dr. Bernhard-Michael Mayer

Head of Pharmacology and Toxicology, Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences Karl-Franzens-Universität Graz, Humboldtstraße 46/I, A-8010 Graz, Austria

….

nicotine

Due to the marketing of novel nicotine-containing products as a less harmful alternative to tobacco cigarettes, the effects of nicotine are currently of great social and political interest.Mostly one reads that nicotine is a “nervary”❗️

From what has been said so far, this statement is meaningless from a toxicological point of view, because there are no poisons but only doses of poisons.It is, however, the question of whether nicotine should generally be referred to as poison, i.e. an “unconditional poison” in the sense of Kobert.

Both in smoking and in the consumption of novel nicotine-containing products, for example the so-called electronic cigarettes, the absorbed dose of nicotine causes a stimulation of certain receptors on nerve cells and thus imitates the action of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine.This is not a “gift effect”, but the imitation of an endogenous action principle with positive effects on the organism,smokers cause this substance to be consumed for life and even to accept the well-known harmful, sometimes even fatal effects of tobacco smoke.

Forusual dosage outweigh effects on the central nervous system, especially the improvement of cognitive functions, such as learning, memory and concentration. ❗️

In overdose, nicotine causes the known side effects such as nausea, vomiting, dizziness and headache. Blocking the function of nerve cells, i.e. the effect as nerve poison,requires very high dosage, which is achieved only by swallowing or intravenous administration corresponding to large amounts as💉Bolus.This neurotoxic effect is based on inactivation of voltage-dependent Na+ channels by permanent depolarization of the nerve cells.

💡 So we can stick together,that nicotine is not a poison in the scientific sense, because there is no “gift in itself”, but also in general language use is not to be called a “gift” because it has positive effects in the usual dosageand the “gift effect” only occurs when there is a massive overdose which is only achieved by misuse.

In principle, when reporting in the media on so-called harmful substances or toxins in the environment or in food, we should not be content with the reference to their presence but should always question the detected quantities and doses of exposure.

https://e-dampfen.info/wp-content/uploads/Ist_Nikotin_ein_Gift-Prof_Dr_Bernd_Mayer.pdf

PachamamaSquaw
4 months ago

Oh, no!

But hey, it doesn’t surprise me at all that even in schools still incompetent, obsolete false information about nicotine will be spread … 🤦🏻

NadjaX1970
4 months ago

Nicotine depends, not tobacco.

But nicotine is also a strong nerve poison.

PachamamaSquaw
4 months ago
Reply to  NadjaX1970

2 x no!

NadjaX1970
4 months ago
Reply to  PachamamaSquaw

Before you write such a nonsense, maybe you should read yourself.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotin

Under the point: Toxic effect

Franky1962
4 months ago
Reply to  NadjaX1970

But nicotine is also a strong nerve poison.

Yeah, for insects.

NadjaX1970
4 months ago
Reply to  Franky1962

Nicotine is a alkaloid and thus a nerve poison.

Alkaloids are naturally occurring, chemically heterogeneous, usually alkaline, nitrogen-containing organic compounds of the secondary metabolism which act on the animal, i.e. also human organism.

Franky1962
4 months ago

The dose makes the poison. Paracelsus knew that 500 years ago. You seem not.

PachamamaSquaw
4 months ago

However,

the longest outdated assumptions❗️

In fact,

👉nie detectedthat nicotine

addicted, or addicted

Btw:

Opinions – no matter who – are with

This topic completely irrelevant❗️

PachamamaSquaw
4 months ago

Nicotine is an alkaloid and therefore a nerve poison.

Yes, but

—> NUR for🦟INSEKTEN🐞🪳🪲🦗🐞

But NOT for people❗️

Is nicotine a poison?

O. Univ.-Prof. Dr. Bernhard-Michael Mayer

Head of Pharmacology and Toxicology, Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences Karl-Franzens-Universität Graz, Humboldtstraße 46/I, A-8010 Graz, Austria

….

nicotine

Due to the marketing of novel nicotine-containing products as a less harmful alternative to tobacco cigarettes, the effects of nicotine are currently of great social and political interest.Mostly one reads that nicotine is a “nervary”❗️

From what has been said so far, this statement is meaningless from a toxicological point of view, because there are no poisons but only doses of poisons.It is, however, the question of whether nicotine should generally be referred to as poison, i.e. an “unconditional poison” in the sense of Kobert.

Both in smoking and in the consumption of novel nicotine-containing products, for example the so-called electronic cigarettes, the absorbed dose of nicotine causes a stimulation of certain receptors on nerve cells and thus imitates the action of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine.This is not a “gift effect”, but the imitation of an endogenous action principle with positive effects on the organism,smokers cause this substance to be consumed for life and even to accept the well-known harmful, sometimes even fatal effects of tobacco smoke.

Forusual dosage outweigh effects on the central nervous system, especially the improvement of cognitive functions, such as learning, memory and concentration. ❗️

In overdose, nicotine causes the known side effects such as nausea, vomiting, dizziness and headache. Blocking the function of nerve cells, i.e. the effect as nerve poison,requires very high dosage, which is achieved only by swallowing or intravenous administration corresponding to large amounts as💉Bolus.This neurotoxic effect is based on inactivation of voltage-dependent Na+ channels by permanent depolarization of the nerve cells.

💡 So we can stick together,that nicotine is not a poison in the scientific sense, because there is no “gift in itself”, but also in general language use is not to be called a “gift” because it has positive effects in the usual dosageand the “gift effect” only occurs when there is a massive overdose which is only achieved by misuse.

In principle, when reporting in the media on so-called harmful substances or toxins in the environment or in food, we should not be content with the reference to their presence but should always question the detected quantities and doses of exposure.

https://e-dampfen.info/wp-content/uploads/Ist_Nikotin_ein_Gift-Prof_Dr_Bernd_Mayer.pdf

NadjaX1970
4 months ago

These are opinions of scientists, not secured findings. You can do a lot of mine.

NadjaX1970
4 months ago

Last seen the article in Wikipedia 10. Nov. 2024 updated.

PachamamaSquaw
4 months ago

Opinion

the individual expert

Prof. Dr. Bernhard-Michael Mayer

University of Graz

Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences

….

The classification of nicotine

as addiction of

Current literature

not supported [8]!!️

….

https://www.bundestag.de/resource/blob/406882/cd97fbcb034b483eca519b5dcfdf5e67/stellungnahme_mayer-data.pdf

NadjaX1970
4 months ago

Then please prove that, finally everyone can claim.

PachamamaSquaw
4 months ago

.

I’m sorry to disappoint you,

but these long-old assumptions

👉are false that stand there❗️

VodkaGin
4 months ago

nicotine

PachamamaSquaw
4 months ago
Reply to  VodkaGin

No.

VodkaGin
4 months ago
Reply to  PachamamaSquaw

I have medical knowledge.

sunnymarie32
4 months ago

I have medical knowledge. – ah yes… but then unfortunately those from the last millennium…

PachamamaSquaw
4 months ago

They don’t use anything!

One needs toxicological, or

scientific knowledge!

NIE has been shown that

Nicotine dependent, or addicted!

This is scientific consensus.