Linux: Freiheit oder selbstgemachtes Chaos?
Warum halten so viele Linux-Nutzer an einem fehleranfälligen, fragmentierten System fest, während Windows mittlerweile schneller, stabiler und benutzerfreundlicher ist?
Linux-Fans loben ihre „Freiheit“, doch in der Realität verbringen sie Stunden damit, Treiberprobleme zu lösen, Terminal-Befehle auswendig zu lernen und inkompatible Software zum Laufen zu bringen. Währenddessen läuft Windows out of the box, bietet bessere Gaming-Unterstützung, stabilere Treiber und eine riesige Software-Auswahl.
Also, mal ehrlich: Ist Linux wirklich die überlegene Wahl – oder einfach nur ein Nischenprodukt für Technik-Puristen, die sich gerne das Leben schwer machen?
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Hello Igelziegel,
Perhaps it would make sense to compare a specific product, for example Windows 11 with a specific product (distribution) from the Linux world, for example Ubuntu, Fedora etc. Linux is available in many different versions with different desktops and tools, so the comparison is a good piece.
Otherwise, with compatible hardware and software, modern desktop distributions with GNOME, KDE Plasma or Cinnamon Desktop are in many cases even much easier to handle than Windows 11.
Of course, linux-based desktop systems are not pre-installed and this is often a problem alone. And the conversion of the workflow to other services and apps is not really nice at the beginning.
On Windows you pay the simplicity with your wallet and your data. Under “Linux” you pay the freedom with time for research and under certain circumstances with some limitations. What is more important for you is in the end with you as a user. There is also the possibility to use the best of both worlds in the form of a dual-boot system on the same hardware.
Hi Ripper, my last two computers I bought with Linux Mint installed. On Windows with its many problems, I am very happy to say, as it is a drastic inferior value for me and cheats on me.
With “Linux Shop”, dealers can supply the computers with installed Linux.
That’s good but not normal. I also only use Linux as a desktop operating system (Kubuntu STS) and that for many years. Unfortunately, there are many users who do not have my experience. It is often assumed that Linux systems simply run on any hardware. In my experience, however, it is necessary to adapt the hardware to the operating system in order to cope well with Linux as a desktop system.
Good argument.
With me everything has worked on every computer after the Linux installation.
For a few years, I’ve only been buying computers with installed Linux, Windos is a low value for me.
If what does not work, please write to the hardware manufacturer.
Wi-Fi/printer/headset always ran at Linux – without driver installation.
I don’t have gaming hardware.
Universal switches are called the PCs on which, for example, Windos runs.
I don’t know what a universal computer is. You just have to look around here and it’s clear that it’s not that easy. Here are some examples: My Wi-Fi does not work, I cannot occupy my gaming keyboard/mouse and do not control the RGB lighting, My printer is not recognized, The standby mode of my notebook does not work, The fingerprint sensor does not work, My headset does not work, etc. I think it makes absolutely sense to buy hardware that is also really designed for use with Linux.
Linux runs on any universal computer.
Both as well as it is quite fitting.
not really, already begins to the older HW at Win11 is completely excluded
not really, more hanging and falling
I don’t know what to really be user-friendly on Windows, the only thing that would happen to me is that it’s pre-installed, but that would be
there is actually everything plug & play
or accordingly uses a starter distro where the package manager is in the foreground via GUI
system update ?
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the only really more relevant ones would be installed and uninstalled if you want to make it over the terminal :p
simply do not use imcompatible software, MacOS does not expect anyone to run all Windows programs or vice versa
naja, with the microsoft basic display drivers I would not want to shock now
might also be because all games for Windows are written, which should not surprise anyone, which you can do everything there
graphics card drivers that crash at me under windows permanently, in the best case in a session 0 times, in the worst case several times a day
I can’t confirm under Linux now, because the game is more like the driver smashed
if necessary
The first is more of software enthusiasts who allow access to their software & solution to everyone
Last no
Linux can even use pensioners, no problem. Office, internet and e-mail make it easy without having any experience.
It’s true that you can’t do that nicely. It’s not my goal to play any games, but my time is too bad.
Windows is just a tiny locked box as soon as you want to do something outside this restricted box, you can only see that you are totally limited. This already started with the right handing of files, if you want to make any change and really use this right system, then the box suddenly zigzags and nothing goes.
Even the USB driver’s stack of Windows is garbage, that was already a halfway working crutch and that’s still today. There hasn’t changed since 20 years. The stack eats up and then you can’t put a device on the USB port. In addition, it should be that you install a USB driver for a device exactly once and this device can be used at all USB ports. With Windows, however, the driver is installed for every single USB port.
So you can go on endlessly, Windows is actually a pretty rough system. The reason why it is still so widespread is the beginnings because Microsoft had such an extremely aggressive marketing strategy and that the Kernel programmers also have no interest in Linux becoming a gaming platform. Because Linux actually has better performance in all areas. If I run a program on Linux, it’s faster and faster than on Windows on the same computer.
The drivers are actually in the kernel at Linux and you don’t have to worry about anything, installing a driver happens in the background and it goes as fast as possible, without a graphical representation that the system is doing something and you don’t have to click anything. The drivers also have a minimum size. On Windows you have to waste hundreds of megabytes to install any system driver.
Under Linux you can set the desktop as you want, you have many possibilities and can design the toolbars with plugins as you think it is right.
If I have to program something with VisualStudio at work, I lack the possibilities I have at home. WinDOS is just a rack system.
On OpenSuse my 16 year old printer runs perfectly..
and the console is just awesome. The ls command alone provides a nice overview of the files in the directory.
Linux can now be installed more comfortably than Windows.
And I always have the latest distributions for free .. Linuxherz what do you want more..
OpenSuse with KDE .. there is hardly anything better..
LA
Linux is not more susceptible to errors than Windows.
Linux is faster in many cases, as it is not slowed down by unnecessary background applications. Almost all supercomputers run with Linux. Linux is also more stable than Windows depending on the distribution, so the majority of all servers run with Linux. If you are not referring to Arch or Gentoo, Linux is also very user-friendly. Even most pensioners could use Linux.
This is actually correct.
If you don’t have Nvidia graphics card, you usually don’t even need drivers and if you don’t have one, you don’t need to run. The terminals are now optional, as there is a graphical surface for everything. And if you don’t want to use Linux professionally, you just want it to run, you need half an hour for the commands. Incompatible software does not exist if the software is available for Linux and if it is not available, it is not Linux, but the developers of the software. And even then you can usually install them with wine or bottles.
Yes, Windows usually runs out of the box. Linux as well. The gaming support is only partially correct. Some games want anticheat that needs the Windows Kernel. That’s the game developers. If you have a game on Steam and the game has no Windows-dependent anticheat, you can start it with Proton.
Ask your trusted computer scientist if you don’t believe me.
Android is based on Linux. It’s not a niche product. It’s not hard either.
I assume you’ve tried some non-friendly Linux distribution years ago.
I would recommend you try Linux again. I can highly recommend openSUSE with KDE Plasma Desktop. You make updates via Discover of KDE and System Settings via Yast from openSUSE and then you don’t have to be able to command.
MacOS is also Bash and the first MacOS were also offsprings from Debian. This also connects MacOS to Linux. I don’t know.
Apple’s first OS and Debian separates a good decade and are not related to each other. At first there was Apple DOS, it followed Apple II and then based on Darwin, a further development that emerged from BSD Unix and Mach.
Linux only came in the early 1990s (Apple End of the 1970s) and only about 2-3 years later, Debian followed with Linux Kernel. Regarding Apple’s iPhone and iPad, it’s iOS and iPadOS (formerly iOS) and also Darwin.
If I’m not mistaken, MacOS is now just Unix based and not Linux anymore.
MacOS is not meanwhile Unix, but since Anno Zwieback. More precisely, it is a further development from BSD and Mach called Darwin. Applies to both macOS and iOS/iPad OS with XNU kernel. Nevertheless, Unix and Linux are very similar, which can also be seen well in the directory structure.
There are things like Lima, a Linux subsystem like WSL under Windows. In addition, many ports of Linux packages and you can also do a lot under macOS. In terms of sometimes even more open than on Windows. Except stop in punkto desktop and other pure UI sounds.
I don’t have a Mac, but I just checked on Wikipedia again. “Abstammung” is Unix, but Linux is not there. https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS
I don’t have a Mac. So I don’t know, but I’m starting to assume that you’re telling the truth.
Rather different: Linux is getting better and more user-friendly, even for a “normal” user system
And that Windows should be more stable…
Do they? Driver problems I did not have a single time and the terminal is also completely optional for most normal users – you can but use it to control the system more easily. And the commands also arise with time, so you don’t really have to learn things for hours,”
This is more a user problem – when they reach Linux, like Windows, and require the same software.
Otherwise it’s just moving the software from the package sources and the program running
Any major Linux distribution as well. Even Arch Linux offers a installer that configures the system with a DE of your choice
It’s due to the fact that a lot has been put on DirectX.
If a badly configured anti-heat does not control against it, this is less a problem thanks to Proton in particular. It is even more like the performance on Linux is also higher – as the whole blotate falls away from Windows
As I said, no problems with the drivers. Even under Linux there is a huge selection – only not necessarily the same. You have to be aware that it is a different system than Windows, which works similarly, but is just different in structure.
Linux propaganda bingo jackpot!
“Linux is getting better” – we’ve heard that for 20 years. Nevertheless, it still has only 2% market share on the desktop. Funny, huh?
“I didn’t have driver problems” – yes, your personal experience is of course representative for all users worldwide. Try to run a current NVIDIA card or special periphery on Linux. Have fun!
“Terminal is optional” – until you first want to install something that is not in your precious “package sources”. Then it’s called “sudo apt-get install” and “chmod +x” and all the other terminals.
“Performance under Linux likes to be higher” – yes, in your dream worlds maybe. Proton is a WORKAROUND, not a feature! And even with this, many games simply don’t run or with massive performance losses.
You sound like someone who has all his Linux knowledge from r/linux copy-pastet. “Arch Linux offers a installer” – wow, welcome to 2025, where Windows can do this for decades!
But hey, keep living in your bubble where Linux is supposedly better performed than Windows. The rest of the world uses systems that simply function – without excuses and without “it’s up to the user”.
Sudo apt install nvidia-driver. Or again as a detailed wiki: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
You know that apt-get also uses the system’s own sources, ne?
It was also net about gaming?
Because Arch is not directed to the same users as Win du Nuss! Something like Ubuntu has been a installer since 2004
Great, if a comment starts like that. Can you take it seriously?
Outdated statistics. Yes, it is lower than Windows, but rises – and Windows loses rapidly numbers
Of course, it’s not a globally valid answer, but I can’t confirm it with any of my systems – neither with mini-PCs where server Linux run, nor with laptops or desktop PCs with DE. And yes, there are also Nvidia cards.
The package sources already cover a lot
You realize you have no idea 🙂
but yes, you can run software faster and more pleasantly by terminal. Yes, you can also modify the package sources – but you can also go to the corresponding files via GUI and edit them with any editor.
The Steam Deck shows that a lot is going on – even without performance losses. And in order to add one more, Valve has released their SteamOS – an operating system with gaming as a primary focus and Linux as a base
I’m glad you don’t even take the quote completely. I wrote the SELBST in front of it, as Arch is known as *the* Linux, which is installed from scratch – initially completely without GUI.
With the usual well-known distributions, something like this has been very good for many, just like for Windows
But hey, keep living in your bubble where Linux is supposedly better performed than Windows. The rest of the world uses systems that simply function – without excuses and without “it’s up to the user”.
It has 4% by now. Maybe your AI is outdated.
I’ve never had a personality before,
No. Just because it is under 3. If there was less crime, it is not because the Jews were all criminals (Analogy).
Similarly, market shares are not due to so many bad experiences, but to the fact that most people don’t even know what Linux is
Your grandma or the 5 year old Timmy of browser games zockt (which is so 90% of all users so) need something like this net
No? Just because I don’t have a Bock to install Gentoo again for my other PC.
I want to see that.
That’s what makes Ubuntu or Mint. Both install drivers automatically and updates are well enough checked to not brick the system,
You have to reload the scarf…
If you don’t know how to securely play updates via the terminal then use the fcking GUI for it. So you can install software securely and easily and make UpDates.
I don’t care about Windows when I change over the Powershell Registry and GPOs to adjust my system settings that it’s so unstable if you can do it through the Settings tab,
To whom are these distros recommended? Right, the people who can build their own car.
Well, the Linux classic. Works super… until you get a new kernel version and suddenly black screen. Or until any update shoots your X-Config. But hey, at least you have a wiki!
Market shares SIND the study. Linux still has a single-digit desktop market share after decades. If it were so great, it would use more people.
Microsoft Office (no, LibreOffice is not a full-fledged replacement), Adobe Suite, current games without Proton freezer, standard business software. Shall I go on?
Sure, that’s why you need two different distros to test. Because everything is so perfect.
And yet Linux users constantly recommend distros like Arch. That’s like saying “Autos have been there for 100 years” while you teach someone to build their own.
Your answers perfectly show the Linux mentality: technical solutions for social problems. The normal user doesn’t want to know what works, he wants it to work.
Let’s see your study. Until then, you shouldn’t talk about all Linux users, otherwise you’re net better than all the populists. I’ll wait.
Please call me a software that the Ottonormal user needs, which is not included
Anyway, I’ve got it and I’m looking forward to your answer.
I have, with gentoo as well as OpenSUSE. Runs both perfect
It would be highly optimized if Valve compiled all packages for the SteamDeck itself. Don’t do that, still running well
As I said, Ubuntu has been there since 2004, and it also has an installer since 2004
Oh, how practical – when the arguments start, the discussion is simply terminated. Very mature strategy.
Funny that you speak of “facts” when your entire argument is made of subjective mimimi. So if you’re just looking for “responses” that match your world image, do a nice little closed-source discussion with yourself. Then you don’t have to worry about contradictory facts.
The only one who comments down is you. Therefore all this has no meaning here and I will no longer answer you 🙂
That you don’t accept facts and turn my words around in the mouth is still the cream cube on top
“Old statistics” – clear, Linux is growing rapidly, from 2% to… 4%? In two decades? It’s called explosive development.
“Can’t confirm this with any of my systems” – again this classic anecdote proof. Your personal experience is irrelevant to the millions of users out there.
“The package sources cover a lot” – yes, except the software you actually need. Then it means adding or compiling PPAs.
“You realize you have no idea” – typical Linux user arrogance. Instead of entering into criticism, the declining comment comes.
Bringing the Steam Deck as an argument for Linux gaming is absurd. This is a highly optimized system with fixed hardware. Try the same setup on your desktop.
And then the Arch defense. No one has claimed it has no installer. The point was that Linux users celebrate basic features as great achievements.
But good, stay in your world where Linux is supposed to be close to conquering the desktop. The rest of the world uses systems that simply work.
No, all your points are wrong. There’s nothing to say about you
Typical Linux apologet: Get the smallest detail out and ignore the real problems.
But hey, congratulate on the extra 2% in… how many years? 20? With speed, Linux Windows already in 2523!
So on my 4th Gen Intel Optiplex running Opensuse (What’s hard bloated is) fast as Win
Decentralization, not fragmentation
Nope. Absolutely Nope. Even my self-closed Gentoo calculator with the really dumbest selection of Use Flags had so far fewer crashes than Win on a top class Gaming PC in a month
One does not exclude the other
So I’ve never had a problem with drivers, the commands I had to learn net by heart (Gibt yes enough cheat sheets) and the only thing I had to wait hours is my Firefox to Compilen
Nope. Drivers must be installed independently from each other, making much more and more mistakes happen than if they are all included in the kernel and the drivers are only available in the kernel as soon as they are compatible
Hmm, so my Kde is on Win. My Hyprland neither. And my dd also net. And I can’t install my yt-dlp system-wide. I don’t have my x11 with window transfer via ssh either, and everything from nmap becomes difficult
I’m not a friend of this. Not OpenSUSE, but distros in which feels tons of everything possible (for me unnecessary) is also installed.
I still have a machine with 9800GT from Anno Zwieback as well as convoluts from T420er towing tops (last with IBM keyboard) on the run. Since almost everything has been beaten to Linux without too much trouble. 😅
I think that remains a riddle to this day as others get it so often. I have been using Windows since the middle of the 1990s and my last BSD wave was so to the era of XP and Vista. Otherwise, almost only know of hearing.
So yt-dlp (also, horny tool) you’re going. But yes, Windows is much more complicated. One thing is really fine, that Microsoft came up with the idea of implementing a package manager.
LG medmonk (who notices that he becomes old) 😉
I just had to look at the date if the question was from 2025 or from 2005. After all, many assertions that have little to nothing to do with reality. Especially since Linux alone is everything and nothing is saying. There are several dozen distributions including split derivatives that are very different.
I have used Linux since the beginning of the 2000s and the named driver problems were rather a topic in the early days. There are still some problems today, but this is more important to the manufacturers of peripheral devices. However, a large part works out-of-the-box and sometimes even much better than on Windows.
The sheet is moving straight and even Steam with its SteamOS continues to feed there. Yes even on the Macs with Apple’s own chip does something. More precisely, with the Asahi project and “reverse-engineered” Drivers. But also there is not Linux the problem, but primarily the gaming and software industry.
If Linux were so problematic, you wouldn’t use it for IoT sounds. The same applies with a view towards IT infrastructures such as servers, cloud applications, generally everything about cloud computing, etc. Linux is very broad and there is also a very diverse range of individual special solutions.
This is also part of a package manager with more or less chic GUI for the past few days and many distributions already from home. You can work in the terminal, but you don’t have to. However, often very convenient and saves you a lot of time if you want to quickly install many packages at once.
Nonetheless, Windows is not a bad operating system because of this, if you would take out all the crap that otherwise comes along. Be it the strong increase in telemetry sounds, advertising-financed blotware, sloppy implementation of features like Recall’s quick shot. Especially in the pro version of Windows, which is actually for SMEs on the market.
Before I set up a halfway clean Windows, I need to deploy an image myself. Until Windows 7 it was still relatively painful free and from Windows 8 it was almost cordstracks down. Like I said, Windows itself is not even so bad. Much more lies with Microsoft and its corporate policy.
The question is from 2025 because the basic problems of Linux on the desktop have not changed. You’ve been using it since the 2000s? Nice, but that doesn’t mean it’s intuitive or problem-free for the average user.
Driver problems are often manufacturer-related, yes, but this is irrelevant to the end user. In the end, it counts whether the hardware works without crafts – and this is simply the standard on Windows.
Gaming? Yes, SteamOS pushes Linux, but still Windows remains the first choice for gamers. Native support, DirectX, more stable drivers and better performance in many cases. Proton is impressive, but a workaround – no equivalent replacement.
The argument with IoT and servers is completely over again. No one buys a desktop PC to run it like a cloud server.
Yes, package managers have GUIs, but if something doesn’t work, you get back to the terminal and googelt commands. Windows? Click, done.
Windows has criticism points, clear. But despite telemetry, blotware and Microsoft’s decisions, it remains the dominant desktop OS. Because it offers the best overall package for most users.
There was a prism of sarcasm in it and that for two decades it has been read repeatedly. Your question or orientation is very attached to gaming and to evaluate it again differently than with someone who only places office sounds.
As I have already noticed, Windows doesn’t want to talk badly here. This is what I am saying.Fan boy“However, yodelling out to the ears. Whether it’s Linux, Windows or macOS, there’s nowhere to find an egg legendary wool milk sow.
In the Linux world there is a relatively wide range of distributions and desktops, which are sometimes more, sometimes less or not directed to average users. Newcomers often don’t know what to choose best.
My personal tip to you if you want to try yourself: Start with Linux Live images or set up virtual machines. Ideally go right towards Proxmox or Unraid if you want to pass the performance of your hardware (e.g. the GPU) to a VM in Linux.
I would not now call the latter a beginner-friendly, but can also be useful later in dealing with Windows. Speak isolated environments that you can easily reset with the least clicks. Especially more, in some cases more can be pinched out of your hardware.
I don’t know what’s owed to Foren-Sterben. There is a handful of German YouTubers who make very good videos. Among them marcus-s and LinuxGuides. Otherwise, I would go more to English-speaking content, as there is simply more choice.
What I can recommend in addition to virtualization, YouTube and Co. and I still have a USB stick with Ventoy on it. Then you push your distributions on it as ISO and then boot from it. It’s nice that you don’t have to change anything on or on your computer.
Hello
I see you have a lot of experience, I would like to start with Linux but don’t know what to do or where to go. I don’t know what my goal is, I just want to try a bit. Can you recommend pages that could help me. I just find Troll links.
Thanks in advance!
Lul, just get the 2nd account out.
That this is more prone to errors, slower and unstable, you should tell Google, Amazon, Facebook and co about the servers running almost only Linux. You seem to know what all the big tech corporations of today do not know.
Oh, please, this is the oldest trick in the Linux fanboy book: “But big companies use Linux on their servers!”
Yes, on servers. And why? Because servers have a completely different requirement than a desktop system. Servers need efficiency, scalability and remote maintenance – and yes, Linux is strong.
But what does this have to do with a normal user or even a power user on a desktop?
Nothing.
Funny if you say Powerusers. On Windows, you can make almost nix as a Poweruser. With Linux you can do everything you want a poweruser? Or not?
Your question is nothing from Desktop.
Why move the gate posts?
A classic misunderstanding – server and desktop computing are two completely different applications.
Server landscapes are highly specialized systems that are maintained by experts with very specific requirements. This is about stability under constant load, safety and scalability. The average desktop user has quite different needs.
He wants:
The tech giants you call use Linux because they employ hundreds of highly qualified SysAdmins that keep 24/7 running these systems. The normal user just wants to turn on his PC and work without hitting with Dependency Hell or broken display managers.
That’s why Windows has dominated the desktop market for decades – it FUNKTIONIERT simply for the average user. Linux may bribe on servers, but on desktop it is often a jelly for those who have not just studied CompSci.
Your answer is very stupid. I’m not going to go into everything you’re going to notice after a few points what a KI shit you’re going to get out of here. Installing software without terminal? Ever heard of a DE. Most of them have a software center. Gaming? With Steam almost all are compatible. Office programs? LibreOffice is compatible with docx. Kernel updates? Just use an LTS Distro or Debian. There you have your stable Linux kernels.
There’s nothing about desktop computers.
If Linux were pre-installed on the purchase computers, one year later would no longer be a need for windows. No one.
I only buy PC’s with installed Linux, everything works excellent.
Paykeys, account compulsion, virus scanner, espionage, advertising in the OS, restrictions, user training – this does not need anything with high-quality operating systems.
There are all programs in the basic installation I need, another 10000 there is in the repository.
Now I don’t think Windows is better for everyone, just for most.
I think if you have experience with Linux servers, you might also like to use a Linux desktop.
And Linux, unlike Windows, is also free software and free, which can also be a factor for some. Windows is also not cheap with about 100€, especially in countries that are not as wealthy as Germany, this is a lot of money.
I do not think that there are many people who seriously think that Linux, Windows makes its place controversial in the near future.
Then we agree: For the desktop, Windows is simply the better choice.
No one denies that Linux makes sense on servers. But that’s exactly what the point is – most users don’t want to manage a server, but just a functioning PC.
Windows dominates the market because it works. Plug & Play instead of terminal equipment, full software and driver compatibility, no surprises after any update.
Linux remains a niche product for enthusiasts who are ready to put time in configurations. If you want to work, be shocked or creative, you will stay on Windows for good reason.
Because it’s just the reality on the desktop market. Market shares, user statistics and hardware compatibility speak for themselves. This is not a “general statement” but a fact in the consumer sector proved by years of development.
So I have several servers.
Sure, for the desktop is Windows for most better, has already its reason why it has 70 or 80% market share.
Many who use Linux on the desktop also operate servers.
Joa, and why then such general statements as that Windows is generally more stable and faster?
Of servers less.
No normal user uses a server. Windows runs directly without terminal freezer. Drivers, software and games work smoothly. Linux is good on servers, but on desktops cumbersome and inefficient for everyday life.
My Steam games (Ready Or Not, ARK, Lockdown Protocol, Bloons TD6, Life is strange) run with more FPS in the CachyOS Kernel than on Windows.
I had a kernel fault error or a crash on Linux. While on Windows Blue Screen errors belong to the monthly business.
This is also true in part. There are software running exclusively on Bash (Linux and MacOS).
This happens passively in the background. It is easy to learn during use. So you don’t sit down and learn as if you’re doing an exam.
No. Linux can be significantly safer than Windows (CubesOS), essential privacy friendly and thus you do not send data to Microsoft.
Also, certain workflows are to be implemented with Linux that do not go on Windows.
@Written5423
Oh, come on, let’s take your “experiences” apart:
Sure, and my grandma flies to the moon at night. Where are your benchmarks? Your methodology? Steam’s own statistics show that most games on Windows perform better.
While your Windows is supposed to crash monthly? Sorry, but that sounds like Confirmation Bias. Modern Windows systems are extremely stable. If Windows crashes constantly with you, the problem is probably ahead of the screen.
Yes super, some developer tools. Meanwhile, Linux is missing: The entire Adobe Suite, current CAD software, industry-standard video editing tools… but hey, at least you can use grep!
That’s the problem! The normal user does not want to “beside” learn a pseudo programming language, just to set up his printer.
And then you come with CubesOS? Seriously? A hypersecurity-focused OS as an argument for the average user? Like a starter, this is recommended for a Formula 1 wagon because it is “technically superior”.
Your “vocational experience” seems to have completely nebulized the view for the reality of the normal user. Not everyone is network technicians or programmers – most simply want to work without having to deal with terminal fu.
No. That was also my reason why I changed to Linux. Because Windows always gave me a blue screen error on my PC. Even after multiple reinstallation.
You don’t have to. The printer drivers are now always already out of the box installed. Maybe with Debian, but this is actually more designed for servers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiOMyfLf4rs
Then a MacOS would probably be better suited for the user.
Okay, well, maybe something’s exaggerated.
But let’s start with that you need to install software from the Internet to download some .exe file and then usually run as an administrator.
That’s not exactly nice.
Let’s keep doing that you don’t have a good app insulation on Windows. While in modern Linux Distros all apps are isolated from each other by flatpaks.
Or with bitlockers that could be bypassed by the bad TPM implementation in under 2 minutes. (Bus sniffing attacks or see last CCC Security Congress)
You’re wrong. SOO Wrong. Inform yourself first to revise your drought here
You’re right. I don’t know how to do it? I’m actually 100% sure you wrote this. But I don’t think so.
Therefore, I’m going to take a screenshot from all the answers so that the thing will clear up if it happens again.
I’m sorry.
Are you okay? You’re about to shoot things I wrote NIE. Either you smoked really good stuff or you confuse the threads here.
“You wrote that with the money” – Uh, no? Let me see where to write this. I have consistently argued GEGEN Linux, not getting out any server cloud disks.
Projecting much? You seem to live here in a parallel reality where I suddenly am Pro-Linux and Anti-Windows? Check the Comment History – I was consistently in my position.
So either:
1. You are completely confused
Two. You troll hard
3. You confuse me with someone else
4. You have really strong Halluzinogen material
What about the four?
You’re kidding me. You wrote that with the money, and I wrote that with the cloud.
Are you a bot? First you argue 100% against Linux and now 100% for Linux?
Windows is uniform and has standards that everyone understands.
What are you talking about? It’s not about how many private users use it as a desktop system, but about whether it’s a good target and yes it’s a good target because almost everything is running behind Linux.
No. Just no. The databases, clouds etc. run on Linux.
I don’t know what you mean now. If you want that the properitarian Nvidia Driver does not spark. Then yes, you have to be careful because you have to re-init the bootloader beforehand. The Open Source Nvidia Drivers do not.
Oh, come on, don’t tell me that Linux is not a niche product on the desktop. Sure, Linux is strong on servers and IoT devices – but that has nothing to do with everyday fitness on a normal PC.
And this old “Linux is sure because there are hardly any targets for attack”-Spruch is not even a Linux fanboy argument, but reality. No hacker is interested in your Ubuntu with LibreOffice and GIMP. The coal is in Windows systems because the Relevant Data and users are.
And speaking of stability: Linux “so what”? Well, then explain why every second kernel update shoots some hardware and the solution is usually to read back down degrees or a forum thread with 200 answers. Windows bugs annoy, yes – but at least you don’t have to behave like an IT technician to keep your PC running.
Where is Windows to blame when Linux crashes??
Almost all IoT devices use the Linux kernel or run based on Linux and almost all servers. Thus, Linux is a good attack.
Neither does it.
Ah yes, the classic: “Linux is objectively better, but the world is simply not ready for it.” Sounds like a bad advertising slogan for a failed tech idea.
Windows has Millions functional installations in corporate use, gaming, creative industry, office work – but if it crashes at a Linux fanboy, it is natural Windows the problem and not the user who neglects his drivers or plays around the system settings.
And your Fedora wonder laptop that is supposed to each Printer out-of-the-box detects? Funny that the complete internet is full of threads in which desperate Linux users are struggling to get their printer or scanner running.
Yes, Microsoft could be to the safety and stability – but do you know what it can’t do? It is not easy to rest on the fact that hardly anyone uses the platform, and then declare themselves “safer” because there are no relevant targets for attack.
Keep dreaming. Maybe Linux is really relevant in the perfect world of the future.
So I was allowed to spend several afternoons repairing Windows systems from my fellow human beings.
Don’t blame me, but lens looks like Linux is faster, safer and more stable. If the software does not support this, this is not the fault of Linux. It may be that non-compatible software is a reason why you don’t use Linux and it’s also valid, but no one can change it on the Linux community or Linux itself. Meanwhile, Microsft is very likely to improve stability and safety.
I have been allowed to use over 30 different printers with my Fedora laptop and everyone ran out of the box.
Your Windows had Blue Screens? Well, not mine. See, I can also get anecdotal evidence. But let’s be real: if your Windows constantly crashes while millions of others work with it… who is the problem here?
And this Flatpak Security Flex is so typical Linux user: “Look, our apps are isolated!” – At the same time, normal users are struggling with their standard software not running at all.
“Printer drivers are out of the box installed” – yes, with the 3 printer models your kernel randomly supports. But hey, there’s the terminal for everyone else! Oh, wait, you shouldn’t have to…
And then bitlocker criticism from someone who recommended CubesOS. Classic! The average user is interested in Bus Sniffing Attacks – who simply wants his system to FUNKTIONIERT.
Well, well.
That’s not quite the case. For years, have internet servers running 24h a day and stable. Every couple of months, one is restarted.
Conclusion: Always depends on what you do with it. If you work with the system, you are well served with Linux but also with Windows.
If you love to install, play and reinstall the system every few months, you are well served with Windows.
“Replace every few months”? That might have happened in 2005 on Windows XP. Windows 11 runs stable for years – even with gaming, constant updates and massive installed software.
Funny you’re coming back with servers. Yeah, sure, your Apache is stable – he doesn’t do anything except to deliver static websites. Try a Windows desktop with daily changing software, differential gaming clients, video editing and office applications. This shows the true stability of a system.
This “Windows needs to be reassembled” meme is as obsolete as the Linux Penguin. Modern Windows systems are robust, self-healing and significantly more error-tolerant than any Linux distro. But hey, tell us more about your server that will be restarted every few months.
That’s it. The constant “Windows must be reset” talk is a relic from XP times. Modern Windows versions run stable for years, even under high load with games, editing and office software.
Your point with servers is good – they have a completely different use than a desktop system. Windows needs to be clear with constantly changing software and high user interaction, and that’s what it does today reliably.
Respect, you understand why Windows is the best choice for most users.
POV:
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This description was once, the Linux developers also recognized this criticism and worked on it. Above all, Windows today really hangs up with updates for hours while on Linux they only need a few minutes.
I personally even think that the Edge Browser has looked a lot off the Opensource project Mozilla is almost a copy, otherwise we still have the old Internet Explorer.
With me the updates go exactly the same length (Doesn’t it like on the Internet?)
No, it has nothing to do with the Internet.
Windows downloads the updates in the background and installs them later.
Linux at least all distros I know installs them immediately after the download.
Some time ago, our Windows company Admin asked me privately, which Linux I can recommend for his father, as he regularly confuses his Windows and he has to fix it constantly.
Since the father only uses Linux Mint Cinnamon, the PC is permanently stable.
Cool thing. https://youtu.be/DDtMTVW1U4s
The opposite is the case. Windows only takes time and is unreliable. Linux Mint runs smoothly and no drivers need to be installed.
“Linux Mint runs smoothly”? That sounds almost like Stockholm syndrome! 😄
Let’s be real – Linux Mint is just the desperate attempt to imitate Windows. But as soon as you go beyond the basics, the real problems begin.
Try using current Adobe programs. Isn’t it? Well, then a lot of fun with GIMP and his Macken from the 90s. Play the latest AAA games – oh wait, only after months of waiting for Proton support. Synchronize your Apple devices… oh, no, no, no, no. Use professional CAD software or connect special hardware like VR headsets – good luck with it!
Suddenly, it’s called “yes but with wine…” or “there’s this open source alternative…” or my absolute favorite: “Simply enter these 47 commands in the terminal…”
Sure, for basic tasks like browsing and text processing, Mint runs “problemless”. But this is like saying “My bike works super as a means of transport” – technically correct, but don’t keep the whole story.
Windows may have its macks, but it is a mature system that can ALL, not just the basics. And yes, you might have to install a driver – but rather than constantly looking for workarounds for missing software!
The real waste of time is to look for Linux alternatives for hours for programs that would work on Windows.
… seek a solution for a nerve for weeks
Printing is therefore simply not possible even with the latest drivers.
joa… what would work “simply” on Windows would work.
Vll. do you have the solution (possibly without new installation)?
Let’s be real. GIMP is not an alternative and everyone knows that. Affinty would be the software to go.
Nope. They usually work after a few weeks. Provided the game developers do not intentionally block Linux. Like CoD.
Aren’t Apple those who are isolated from all the others?
CAD software can already be a problem. But this is also a niche. Not everyone uses CAD software.
Mint is not timely either. Go to Fedora, there works Secure Boot out of the box and the drivers are already out of the box installed. Most of them go graphically but sometimes you won’t get around the term. But that’s how Linux is built.
But if you want to change or make sure of Windows (Bitlocker), you won’t be around the GPO and registry.
So working on Windows with Docker Container is already quite a cramp.
But on Linux I can do almost everything I do. AAA-Games cock, programming(HTML, CSS, JS, TS, Python and C#), edit images, view any office work, videos etc.
You might also say the True Time Waste is to roll around in the GPOs because Microsoft doesn’t get the Bitlocker Implementation in the TPM chip right. Or to avoid certificates on Secure Boot because Microsoft does not manage to remove compromised certificates.
You’re a cunning joke
Why is Windows unreliable?
You should learn to read: the printer does not work ONLY on Windows (11). Under Linux, Thomaag can print according to his own statement.
But of course: always like to turn the facts so that they fit into their own narrative.
Oh, so now I’m evil because I’m “Linux bashe”? Funny that your Linux fans fall into the victim role immediately when someone expresses valid criticism. Windows has at least one professional support – what does Linux offer? Forum posts from 2012?
And this passive-aggressive “maybe it’s just a standard user” move… while your Linux defends, a system that needs a computer science degree to set up a printer.
But hey, keep defending your workarounds. The rest of the world uses systems during the… ach nee, moment – under Windows the printer does not go.