Leaving the train, dangerous?

Hey,

I just saw a SWR report about a broken train in Mainz. The train broke down in the tunnel, and the passengers (one of whom collapsed) had to wait forever for help in the heat.

Why is it dangerous in such situations to use the emergency release to open the doors and get out? Tracks are only dangerous when trains are moving. In such a case, however, one could have easily escaped via the escape route next to the tracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TkOAL81Vgg

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summersweden
9 months ago

In the case of a multi-lane tunnel, another railway can come so quickly that you can no longer escape on foot (even in the tunnel).

If you clear a train outside the train station, it must be controlled (or an absolute emergency). A crowd, possibly with panicked people, is not so easy to control.

Even if it is warm and sticky: there is less danger on the train than in the tunnel.

guru61
9 months ago

Here you could have used the stairs at the tunnel portal.

Google – Google Maps

You see the stairs in the movie too!

The fact that one had to call the fire brigade first when someone was at the collapse is only available at the Desolate railway.

What the hell are the emergency steps if you can't use them?

In other places, one is much less imperial:

Tray fault – train stuck in the tunnel – track remains interrupted all day (solothurnerzeitung.ch)

Juliedesetoiles
9 months ago

Of course -> In such a case, I would immediately hit the discs with the emergency hammer to finally get into the free and cool 😊

PS And even if there is still “other rail traffic” you will see it in time 😉

Main thing out 😊

dompfeifer
9 months ago

"if there is any other rail traffic, you will see it in time"

Before you see it, you've been overwhelmed.

Carsten1
9 months ago

The case known from the TV contribution is comprehensible. If one imagines an IC(E) with Tempo 200 thunders in the tunnel, injuries are likely even if the persons "only" get off at the side facing away from the opposite track. The counter traffic builds up an enormous pressure wave before and behind it. An emergency rescue is initiated only when it is ensured that the distance has been blocked and accordingly every train travel has been stopped in the danger zone, in any case the contact wire current is also switched off and is secured against the rail by grounding against unintentional reactivation. With 15,000 volts, it's not too late in emergency. Only now can emergency services and all related measures be initiated. Since the train crew is repeatedly trained in "First Aid", the handling of a collapsing person should be controlled. Privately traveling, attending doctors or rescue workers of any qualification, support in emergency care.

It is, of course, a somewhat convincing argument from the railway if it takes several hours to get a "love pale."

On the train, the train staff says what to do.

Nitram
9 months ago

Quite simply, how do you want to make people get out on the right side.

Nitram
9 months ago
Reply to  chiara0204

And then you jump 2.5 m into the gravel, that's what I wanted to see you look like.

guru61
9 months ago
Reply to  Nitram

Quite simply by releasing the doors only on the exit side. You can do this in every station.

I don't think it's a train!

Nitram
9 months ago
Reply to  guru61

Since I am a railwayer, there is no comment on the last comment.

The TF (locator) will release the doors only with the consent of the auxiliary staff or the emergency manager.

guru61
9 months ago

Yeah, I know we're in Germany and the train's just going to the wall. It is more important that the processes are adhered to than being looked after on the health of the passengers! Have fun at your desolate train.

Nevertheless, the passengers sat for hours at an external temperature of 30 degrees and the train continued to heat up until a person collapsed and an emergency call was placed by the passengers to the fire brigade, which had only been experienced by the train left behind and then the evacuation started.

The parade example is the ICEschede: Not even if a wheel tire grows through the compartment floor, this is a reason for the emergency brake!

The "success" looks at this:

https://flic.kr/p/2pLftsh

The Gotthard Base Tunnel is not located in Germany!

Gotthard Base Tunnel: First Safety Tests Rescue Exercise with 800 Stats | Espazium