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Yrral
4 months ago

Moin,

With this coin you have given me a real task and unfortunately I cannot give you a satisfactory answer – at least at the moment.

First of all what you see:

This is a supposed coin by Friedrich Ulrich from 1621, which can be seen in the inscription. For his part, he was Prince of Braunschweig-Wolfenbüttel and Duke of Braunschweig-Lüneburg.

Daa coat of arms of the Principality of Braunschweig-Wolfenbüttel consists of 2 lions, which can also be seen in the front (Fig. 2). The horse is the symbol of the Welfen and the connection to it is visible on the back. It is still the symbol in the coat of arms of Wolfenbüttel and not just there. It is also in a springing form the symbol for the whole of Lower Saxony.

Let’s get to what you don’t see so easily:

From the picture, the piece suggests that it is a silver coin in a very good degree of preservation with beautiful patina.

From the size and imprint, it actually only fits a silver coin worth 1/8 thaler. But it would have to be a bit easier (3,6 g), which I now attribute to the inaccurate weighing. For the value 1/4 Talers is too small and too light (1/4 Thaler has a minimum size of 30 mm and a weight of 7.2 g).

Now the problems arise.

The official coins of the Duchy of Braunschweig Lüneburg were all coined in the resin (mainly in Clausthal, but also in other sites). The coin image of the then Zeut therefore shows on one side a coat of arms with the symbols of the Welfen and of the Duchy and on the other side the mountain spirit of the resin (also referred to as a wild man) holding a tree in one hand.

Your coin image is completely different and I haven’t found any information about it yet. It could therefore be an embossing in a non-official embossing place.

Especially at the time around 1621, where the money shortage and the devaluation of the small coins played a role, private mint masters “around the corner” who bought the Sibertalians in places, melted and mixed predominantly with copper to form an alloy with a low silver content. They then returned to exchange for cheaper exchange conditions and concealed that the silver content was very low. They were therefore called Kipper coins (out-kipot coins) or bad valleys.

This has taken it to such an extent that it has more than 30 private embossments at the end of 1622, the image of which is arbitrarily selected and no longer shows the high-level image. => That would explain to me unknown imagery.

What speaks about your coin against a tipper coin is the weight. Due to the high copper content, the density of which is significantly lower than silver, it would have to be novh lighter. However, it cannot be ruled out because the Kipper coins were not designed so professionally by all “Münzmeister”.

Conclusion:

As it appears to be a very nice piece, I would go to a coin specialist for Welfen coins, who can examine them more precisely than I did on the photos. Ggf. can also be found in a museum in this area.

Edit:

It is listed in the world catalogue under number 1070.

Yrral
4 months ago
Reply to  Bullsrennrad

You’re welcome.

The Thirty Years War and the associated necessities have just launched the private “Münzmeister” (signed as Kipper or Wipper). Interestingly, even with a duke of Friedrich Ulrich, which also underlines his incompetence as a Regent. In 1622 the embossing of tipping coins was prohibited, but they remained tolerated in circulation.

mendrup
4 months ago

The coin originates from the 30-year war and was coined by Friedrich Ulrich, one of the “most incapable rulers of the House B-W”. A nice piece, unfortunately I don’t know anymore.

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Ulrich_(Braunschweig-Wolfenb%C3%BCttel)