Can vegan be equally healthy for everyone?

I've been a vegetarian for a few years now (I'm 22, I've been a vegetarian since I was 19), and occasionally vegan, because I'm still studying, and while vegan diets aren't necessarily more expensive, I still spent more money on them because I was always trying to get all the amino acids and such. I've tried to eat as much as possible, as I'm also slightly underweight (but I was already that way before I became vegetarian/vegan). I just don't gain weight that quickly. For some time now, I've been having second thoughts about whether this diet is right for me. I'm wondering if there are people who are less able to utilize plant-based nutrients than others. I've suddenly been craving chicken more often recently, even though I still don't really find the idea of ​​eating meat particularly appealing. I'm just so unsure right now and wondering if being vegan, even if you do it right, is really healthy for EVERYONE. Do you have any opinions on this? Or any advice? (Please don't judge)

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AntiKarnismus00
5 months ago

Many anti-vegan people express themselves negatively to veganism from lack of understanding and share pseudo-scientific half-knowledge, so I recommend the Discord ServerVegan Dreamland, where one can respond more meaningfully to such questions and inform one another at a high level about science on nutrition and diseases, logic and ethics. Otherwise, here are some basics:

Nutrients

I had already written an answer about what dietary supplements I take.

Vegans just need to supplement vitamin B12. Vitamin D3 can be added if you want because as good as all people have a deficiency. All other nutrients can be covered by food. There are no problems with the conversion rates of vitamin K1 to vitamin K2, beta carotene to vitamin A or omega 3 in the form of ALA to EPA and DHA.

Carni nuts

Especially the people in the Carnivore scene claim that carni nuts like choline, carnitine, creatine, keratin, taurine, arachidonic acid or hems, cholesterol, animal fatty acids, animal amino acids, omega 3 in the form of EPA and DHA that you only get from the animal products, but there are no scientific evidence that there is actually a lack of carni nuts in vegans and whether it has any negative effect at all. These claims are based on mechanistic speculation. If one takes up sufficient precursors such as lysine, methionine, cysteine, glycine, arginine or certain micronutrients and feeds on a balanced basis, one can assume that the body has the ability to synthesize these carni nuts itself. The body regulates enzymes and receptors in order to adapt to food intake, so we do not have to take nutrients that have already been evaluated by animals to us.

If you take too much of the carni nutrients such as choline and carnitine (increasing TMAO), keratin or arachidonic acid, it even has a negative effect on health. So you should keep these substances rather low.

Vitamin B12

The animals in mass animal husbandry and pasture maintenance receive synthetic vitamin B12 (cyanocobalamine) mixed in the form of prefabricated feed mixes (forced food) or injected in order to avoid nutrient deficiency of the animals and to get enough vitamin B12 into the animal products. Animal products are an indirect dietary supplement, only through the violent detour of animals.

There is no problem with taking a vitamin B12 supplement if you can prevent the cutting of minds by taking it. It is very well researched, healthy, has no side effects and protects the animals. The argument that it is unnatural is aAppeal to Nature Fallacy. From naturalness it does not follow that something is better or more correct, and vice versa. Everything in our lives is unnatural, but not bad or wrong. So far, there are no scientific evidence that it would be unhealthy to feed on isolated nutrients. In isolated beta-carotene it is known that it is carcinogenic, but only in smokers. The benefit is greater than the possible side effects that could only occur in large quantities. The study situation against isolated nutrients is weak and goes towards mechanistic speculation, as it cannot be ruled out that negative effects are more due to an unhealthy diet or lifestyle of subjects.

Sand thorn, water lenses, real alant or wheat grasscontain a large amount of bioactive vitamin B12 from vitamin B12-producing bacteria within the plants. Water lenses are the fastest-growing covert collectors in the world, contain 500% (about 20 μg) of the recommended daily requirement and no arable areas are required for breeding. (Animal products contain 0.3 to 6 μg per 100 g.) Real alant is widely used and has been eaten as a spice and medically used in the course of human history. The argument that plants do not have vitamin B12 is therefore invalid.

Proteins

Plants contain all 9 essential amino acids, otherwise they could not grow. The bioavailability of proteins is marketing because we have an amino acid pool where proteins are stored and transformed 6-24 hours as the body needs it right now. The proteins swim in the blood and supplement each meal, and no one eats only one protein source per day. The source of proteins plays no role in muscle building, but rather the amount. Animal proteins increase IGF-1, mTOR and CRP, cause cancer, autoimmune diseases, kidney diseases, osteoporosis, gout and inflammation.

The Associations of Diet with Serum Insulin-like Growth Factor I and Its Main Binding Proteins in 292 Women Meat-Eaters, Vegetarians, and Vegans

2002: Animal products contained prefabricated IGF-1, which increases the IGF-1 level, and by animal proteins the liver produces more IGF-1. IGF-1 is the strongest growth factor in our body and correlates strongly with cancer growth.

Antibody cross-reactivity between myelin oligodendrocyte glycoprotein and the milk protein butyrophilin in multiple sclerosis

2004: In animal experiments, it was shown that milk protein can trigger an autoimmune reaction. The lymphocytes can produce antibodies that attack both the milk protein and the myelin secretions. As a result of destroyed myelin divorces, the nerves in the brain also die and multiple sclerosis is developed.

The Western-style diet: a major risk factor for impairment function and chronic kidney disease

2011: Meat leads to higher acidity, because of animal proteins. The kidneys need to get rid of more acids, which is why they often leave water. More of the cell poison ammonia is formed, which arises in the degradation of proteins, which leads to a metabolic aziosis (acidification of the blood and body) and damages kidney cells (nephritis). The decrease in the kidney function could only be detected when using animal proteins, not in plant proteins.

Adverse Effects Associated with Protein Intake above the Recommended Dietary Allowance for Adults

2013: 32 studies on the harmfulness of animal proteins: They acidify the body, cause osteoporosis and kidney stones.

Low Protein Intake Is Associated with a Major Reduction in IGF-1, Cancer, and Overall Mortality in the 65 and Younger but Not Older Population

2014: High protein intake increases mortality by 75%, the probability of dying cancer by 300%, the probability of dying diabetes by 400%. The cause is the increase of IGF-1 by animal proteins.

Association of Animal and Plant Protein Intake With All-Cause and CauseSpecific Mortality

2016: Effects on health when replacing animal proteins with vegetable proteins at over 130,000 participants: The overall mortality as well as the likelihood of cardiovascular diseases, cancer and other diseases decreases, no matter which animal product is exchanged for plant proteins.

The Muscle Protein Synthetic Response to the Ingestion of a Plant-Derived Protein Blend Does Not Differ from an Equivalent Amount of Milk Protein in Healthy Young Males

2023: The intake of 30 g of a vegetable protein mixture of wheat, corn and pea protein increases the muscle protein synthesis rates in healthy young men. The reaction of muscle protein synthesis to the intake of 30 g of this vegetable protein mixture does not differ from the intake of a corresponding amount of a high-quality animal protein.

Ethics and ecology

When you buy animal products, you pay other people to enslave, torment, tormented, exploited, knurled, mutilated, gasified, drowned in boiling water, shot and slit.

80 billion farm animals and 2.4 trillion fish are killed annually, including 200 million farm animals per day, and for the production of animal products a multiple more Crop-Deaths are accepted to grow feed for animals. This is animal murderbecause death is forced on animals, although it is not necessary. If you support the system, you make yourself a fellow.

Murder is defined in the Oxford Dictionary as intentional killing and not only refers to people, so it also applies to animals.

In contrast to animals, plants have neither intrinsic nor extrinsic values and cannot have or communicate any interest in elementary fundamental rights such as life and physical integrity, so one cannot commit any violations of law if one harvests them or eats them, and there is no plant murder. Plants do not have nodentities to be able to send pain signals, and no brain to process pain and to have consciousness:

2019:Plants Nor Possess nor Require Consciousness

2020:Debunking a myth: plans consciousness

2020:Anesthetics and plants: no pain, no brain, and therefore no consciousness

2021:Integrated information theory does not make plans consciousness more convincing

In the case of the Crop-Deaths on the fields for the vegans, small animals such as rodents, birds, snakes and insects still die. (Science tends not to feel pain in insects, so it is questionable how this is a moral problem at all.) Since Crop-Deaths are unintentionally and unavoidable, and you need to feed on something, there is no animal murder.

Farmland has the greatest benefit for people with the lowest animal suffering. (Hedonic Utility = Wellbeing minus Suffering.) So there is no disutility, but the animal suffering falls. You don’t have to look for a better solution (2 cows per year or save insects), because arable lands already lead to a Net Positive Utility, otherwise you get Slave Consequentialism.

Number of Animals Killed to Produce One Million Calories in Eight Food Categories

2009: The least Crop-Deaths are created with a vegan diet.

Food Climate Research Network – Grazed and confused?

2017: Most pesticides are used for the food of animals. Pesticide use for corn and soybeans is highest, see intheGraphics, and precisely these two foods are the main ingredient for Grass Fed Beef, so pastures. In order to maximise the genetic potential of pastures, they also receive feed based on cereals and oil seeds, instead of only grass, agricultural by-products and harvest residues.

Mammal population densities at a global scale are higher in human-modified areas

2020: On pastures there are twice as many animal species as on arable land, see intheGraphic. (It should therefore be assumed that more Predator Prey Cycle Pressure prevails on natural, untreated areas such as pasture areas and forest areas, and thus more animal suffering arises as well as unnatural, treated areas such as arable areas and asphalt.)

Ecology

World Bank Working Paper No. 22 – Causes of Deforestation of the Brazilian Amazon

2003: 80% of all currently wooded areas in the Amazon rainforest are deforestation. 91% of all areas in the Amazon rainforest have been deforestation for livestock farming.

TemplateLAB – Livestock and Climate Change

2009: 51% of all greenhouse gases come from everything related to animal products, considering the overlooked factors.

Estimating the Number of Fish Caught in Global Fishing Each Year

2010: Up to 2.7 trillion fish are fished from the sea per year. The seas are important for the climate.

Exploring the biophysical option space for feeding the world without deforestation

2016: If the world were vegan, you would not have to fall another new tree, just stock.

The Impacts of Dietary Change on Greenhouse Gas Emissions, Land Use, Water Use, and Health: A Systematic Review

2016: The vegan diet reduces greenhouse gases, land use and mortality more than any other dietary form (14 diets analysed).

Reducing food’s environmental impacts through producers and consumers

2018: 83% of agricultural land is needed for the production of animal products. If the world was vegan, we only need 1/4 of the arable land.

Estimating the environmental impacts of 57,000 food products

2021: Planting foods are up to ten times better for the environment.

Rapid global phaseout of animal has the potential to stabilize greenhouse gas levels for 30 years and offset 68 percent of CO2 emission this century

2022: A vegan world can reduce CO2 emissions by 68%.

Health

A vegan diet is not only the most ethical and ecological, but also the healthiest diet. I had already written a detailed answer with 21 studies and the position papers of large nutrition companies.

I already had detailed answers with dozens of studies on the causes of , , and written. These diseases are caused by animal products and fat.

The food of humans is strong carbohydrates. People should feed on low-fat, carbohydrate-rich, fiber-rich potatoes, cereals, noodles, rice, oat flakes, corn, fruit, vegetables, legumes, beans and lentils.

Why are animal products unhealthy?

Animal products are unhealthy, regardless of quality, origin and preparation, because they consist of the same toxic, carcinogenic ingredients:Cholesterol, animal fatty acids, animal proteins, growth factors such as IGF-1, hormones, carcinogens, oxidants, bacteria, viruses, haems. These problems are associated with all diseases in tens of thousands of studies and the most important mechanisms behind them are scientifically known. Non-Vegans focus only on the positive effects of the good ingredients (nutrients), which account for 0.1% of dry weight, and ignore the negative effects of the bad ingredients that represent >99% of dry weight. This is Appeal to Minority Fallacy in a health context, a logical failure. The positive effects of the good ingredients cannot compensate for the negative effects of the bad ingredients, so animal products – despite nutrients – lead to bad health outcomes.

Carnism: The Psychology of Meat

Karnism is the belief system / the ideology of non-Vegans and the reason why they behave as they behave. I had already written a detailed answer about this. Animated carnism video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8sXdgVXXpM

AntiKarnismus00
5 months ago

A vegan diet should be much healthier for all. If you eat enough calories and keep attention to its nutrients.

Bananamouse
5 months ago

Well, I really don’t think so. I really have problems at all to find what I can (have really many incompatibilities :’> ….) but I get so good I can also go back to vegan products if I can. If I lived completely vegan then I would almost always have to eat the same

okieh56
5 months ago

Healthy is a balanced diet.

I know vegans who have developed deficiency symptoms and therefore prefer to feed vegetarian or even have turned to an omnivorous diet.

Fabi1037
5 months ago

No