Can you break in a raw pony (stallion) at 14?

I was just looking for ponies on ehorses :-). And I found a beautiful pony stallion there who's still raw.

So I was wondering whether you can break in and train a horse yourself (with training and partial training) at the age of 14, if you ride at L level, or whether you should send a horse like that to be trained in full training (far away in a training stable) for half a year or a year.

I'm just asking 🙂

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Punkgirl512
5 years ago

Jein.

If you keep strong with your trainer and don’t do anything without it at the beginning, you may well go. tendencies rather less because one has relatively still neat fluffs in the head at age.

More sensible, so that the horse gets a solid basic training from the start, would be consistent ride. You can also get in quite early, but rather so before you happen any mistakes you don’t just get bathed out again. Correction Beritt is much more difficult to ride than a young horse.

Punkgirl512
5 years ago
Reply to  Shiraunddati

That you have a lot of bullshit in your head. You’re probably gonna argue with that now, but it’s really like that.

JFF123
5 years ago

Riding and training cannot be compared!

It’s so much more than to sit on it and ride.
Even if you ride on L-Niveau, do you know how to join a horse the right one?
The correct attachment?
This is not easy to build contact with the mouth, to train you need inconceivably a lot of experience that you must not underestimate, you can do so much.

I don’t think it’s possible for you to do a favor.

The first months up to a year, I would give the pony in full kick and then maybe in part, where you could train with a trainer in between.

JFF123
5 years ago
Reply to  Shiraunddati

Okay, maybe you should have written that, that’s what it sounds like.
But then it’s good.

JFF123
5 years ago
Reply to  Shiraunddati

Of course, you have to teach a horse that doesn’t run like that on your own.
A horse does not know what to do at once, that is not a natural attitude.
So you have to show the horse what to do.

It can happen quickly that the horse has the right head posture, but still does not bulge the back.
But that’s what you have to do and you have to teach the horse.

JFF123
5 years ago

I think we talked past each other. XD

I’ve still been educating this on my own.

But yes, there are riding instructors and rides.

JFF123
5 years ago

A young horse (rough) does not go “just” because you sit correctly, etc. in a line.

They try to escape the uninhabited pressure, no matter how gentle you are in your mouth.
You have to show them how to do it.

PeppysGirl
5 years ago

The first question is why is he still stallion? Should he be convicted, but not the potential? Or has just been tried to save costs?

I’m theoretically not to train a horse himself if the frame conditions are correct – means you have a trainer on your side who leads you and rides the horse. At least I think that part of the first young horse in any case makes sense. Only a professional recognizes when you can take the step and when the pony is overwhelmed. Just to be able to ride lessons is not enough as a riding experience, because “reading” is just something different.

Basically, it is always preferable to invest more in the basic training of a horse at the beginning and to enjoy it later than to save at the beginning, because everything that has been ruined is later all the more difficult (and more cost-intensive) to correct. On the other hand, if the basics are solidified one can build on them again and again.

So if you decide to buy the pony then I would advise you to give it in full kick at first, and then – when the GGA sits – to start riding the pony with instruction in class and continue to leave it in part.

I can only guess what’s going on all by myself, as I experience too often what can come out of it;-).

Dahika
5 years ago
Reply to  Shiraunddati

and how is the stallion held? Woven isn’t, is it?

PeppysGirl
5 years ago

Well, of course, this is not for everyone;-)

That depends on it – if there is the possibility of giving the horse on the ground in full riding with you in the stable, that would of course be the best option, because you save the transfer to another stable, the horse has no stress due to change of stables etc.

Often, however, there is no possibility or If you want a special trainer who is farther away, then there is no way to turn the horse over there for the time of riding.

CarosPferd
5 years ago

rides and train yourself are very different things. You have to learn how to train not only how to get everything.

6 or 12 months in full, and then want to make the rest alone again, I do not consider the right way,

If you really ride well (soft hand, always in movement etc etc, you think you know what I mean;) have a good feeling, quick understanding and power of conversion, then you could help train a horse. So it gets professional rides and you ride also, under instruction/observance, so you learn how to do it without trying around and screwing up something that then needs to be corrected with a lot of effort and effort (e.g., there are often enough questions about this one here). If you have no experience with training, you should not be overestimated yourself

whether a stallion would be the right partner at the beginning is also to be individually assessed

dasadi
5 years ago

For me, it’s always up to me to build a good bond and trust, so I wouldn’t give a new horse friend in full. I wouldn’t want to leave it to anyone else to make ground exercises, walks to know, etc. Only if a bond is recognizable, I would start riding slowly, at the same time with partial ride and lessons.

FunnyFanny
5 years ago

I’m just wondering if you, TE, have thought about what this pony, including 12 months of full ride?

And if it’s the pony you want? And can it ride?

To train a raw pony (how old is the animal actually?) I would never let a 14-year-old (also with support from a trainer) live! There is simply lack of experience, reliability and overall assessment in daily use. These requirements are ten times higher than for normal riding/entry with a trained animal.

FunnyFanny
5 years ago
Reply to  Shiraunddati

Why ask If you’re not supposed to be bought…

So, again: a 14j. can’t train a horse. Point. Even if a coach supports, he can’t stand around the clock and monitor every step on the horse. Ergo remains here only for months with the corresponding costs.

The meaning of such an action does not come to me…

FunnyFanny
5 years ago

Yeah, so?

FunnyFanny
5 years ago

The action “purchasing raw pony and having professional training” …

Urlewas
5 years ago

Can’t “man” necessarily. Could you possibly already – if you hadn’t already 3mPferde and the school…

It is also completely pointless to do a stallion if you do not want to breed. And with 14 a pony for himself, a tournament rider doesn’t have anything at all, because you can’t expect him to be so great that he can take part in the big horses.

But you can dream, I still wish you a lot of fun with your current pony! 😄

Urlewas
5 years ago
Reply to  Shiraunddati

You will know that in the exams that are not specifically written for ponies, there is hardly a pony chance. A pony like Correli de Luxe is even more rare than a six in the lottery.

And as far as stallions are concerned, this is merely a prestige – asks, which is only a burden for everyone involved, especially for the horse itself. It’s all bullshit that a stallion looks different. I don’t know a person (and I have several horse management champions in the acquaintance…) who could distinguish a stallion from a mare (above a wallach!) due to body construction. This is the formation by humanization: A boy is easy to distinguish from a girl, but an untrained stallion looks just as tacky as an untrained mare. Otherwise, the dressage tournament would have to hold the exams by sex separately, as is done in sports in people.

Urlewas
5 years ago

Exactly. And if he actually had some, he would probably not be in testosterone noise at all at all ugly for normal people. A stallion who sees a rusty mare or, much worse!, a rival, sometimes mutates from now on to the monster who knows no friends and wrestles everything that comes in his way.
And as I said, because this behavior is “normal”, diseases and pain are often overlooked and pushed to such involuntaryness.

Upstairs said stallion would have bit me almost the whole face – fortunately the connecting chain was too short. When you look in such a cracked throat, you suddenly know that a horse bite can end quite differently than with a blue spot on the arm…

Another guy who was always sweet, I should just pick him up from the padock when his old friend arrived with the hanger after a long absence. Don’t ask me how I got his box with the animal without running over the pile! And I couldn’t take off the halter because he was so out of him…

Some more experiences. No, I’ll leave it now.

Urlewas
5 years ago

And, quite tragic: due to this unpredictability pain is easily overlooked. If your dear pony suddenly snaps after you and becomes poisonous, you’ll quickly get the vet because you realize he’s missing something. If, on the other hand, a stallion becomes unfaithful, the whip is brought up because it is to be assumed that it is playing out what is to be prevented by all means for safety reasons.
For example, I knew one who then went into colic after he had probably suffered from intestinal inflammation long before.
In addition, in many hengsts, the typical behavior only comes through with 7 so correctly, “in full man age”. And then you have the risk of a late castration on the already quite well-trained horse, and the likelihood that he will no longer completely distract his bad behavior.

For my part, I don’t want anything to do with Hengsten anymore.

Urlewas
5 years ago

At the horse, nix looks “comic”. And “love” are often until you suddenly experience nothing “the blue miracle”. Also, stallions are always disadvantaged because mankind has to treat much more strictly, constantly control and separate. Every horse testes out at times to its limits, and looks (as every person also…) to see if the usual rules are still valid; but a stallion does this all the time, because it is in its nature to constantly fight for domination. I have also seen it more often that a stallion, which has always been cumbersome so far, was suddenly not tolerated from one moment to the other, because a situation with which one would not have expected.

Luminou
5 years ago

Hm, you’re still very young at 14. There must definitely be someone experienced. But if you ride really well, work closely with an expert and your trainer works the horse regularly, it could work.

If you don’t have the chance to have a very good care, I’d probably tend to be a complete ride. But even then, regular teaching and training of good professionals is very important.

Pferdelilly
5 years ago

with several weekly rides, a lot of riding lessons and a little luck you can make it. Provided the pony has been clearly raised in the head and so far well educated (and also remains clear in the head, not too stubborn or something, but also much related to education and attitude). However, you should be at least at a real A-L level. You also often see girls who get the best horses where you just have to sit down. There is then who is placed in the L Dressur, who rides on a “normal” horse just E.

Pferdelilly
5 years ago
Reply to  Shiraunddati

hm I didn’t mean that, rather than how you get off with badly trained horses, e.g. badly ridden school horses or young.

A horse that already knows what it has to do, that it has to bulge the back and, except when it gets naughty, also listens to the help is something other than one who tries to constantly remove the help, one who can only relax very hard under the rider or the like.

Who never had to fight with real problems will be quite overwhelmed with a young horse.

WinterKind1337
5 years ago

I wouldn’t give someone with 14 a raw horse.

Too risky, purely insurance. In addition, you can ride with 14 so well, it lacks the years of horse experience, the look for certain details you only get when you have experience. With 14 you cannot have experienced so much in time.

WinterKind1337
5 years ago
Reply to  Shiraunddati

And that’s why you’re too young. There is a heavenly difference between riding and riding.

WinterKind1337
5 years ago

Riding experience is not “ready experience”-.- But we have often explained enough. It still means no from me, get professional trainers and not only 1x a week, but DAUERHAFT throughout the entire training.

Urlewas
5 years ago

Let it be good – the question is hypothetical anyway 😉

WinterKind1337
5 years ago

Jesus, how many more?!

WinterKind1337
5 years ago

Basic education does not have JEDES 3 year old horse. Have an 11-year-old last with riders.

As I said at 14, you’re too young in my eyes, no matter what you’re trying to argue.

WinterKind1337
5 years ago

You’ll be educated and disciplined first. End-size ponys can very well be disputed by light adult persons.

But the animal is first raised and that has nothing to do with “reading”. Riding is the receipt of knowledge/training
Breeding is to make attachment/understand without tormenting the animal, confusing, drawing, mistreating, etc.

Have already trained young horses with instructed/addressed/trained. This rarely makes a person alone and never without professional help or own sound training.

pony
5 years ago

if a non-candied pony is still stalled in normal age, I would leave the finger away. because one wanted to save the cost for laying and who tried to save it also saved at another place on the pony.

for the rest it comes to the type, character and size of the pony and on the rider. sometimes it is great to be small and easy. K-ponys are “disputed” differently. even the whole training for riding differs considerably from the larger ponys and from horses.

I’d rather have someone with a not so high level on a remonte. the rider has to function up there without discussing. so two to three years of riding experience, saddle strength, trembling freedom, a good seat and a soft hand are what is necessary.

pony
5 years ago
Reply to  Shiraunddati

is bad.

your eckdata reads no more exact answer. I’d say you’re too big for riding.

Urlewas
5 years ago
Reply to  pony

K- Pony? The name is not familiar to me (Google was not enlightening now), what does that mean?

Katta11
5 years ago

You’re too young at 14. You lack experience. Would you rather ask why it should be a “beautiful raw stallion”… East wind dreams?

Katta11
5 years ago
Reply to  Shiraunddati

The appearance should be secondary when selecting a horse. But I can understand. You can’t stand it. Only after that comes the evil awakening.

Katta11
5 years ago

You already have a lot more than 99% of all the horse girls.

Dahika
5 years ago

If you have the level AND have a good coach at hand, yes, otherwise not.

dressurreiter
5 years ago

With the help you can make sure the basic condition that you can ride well is fulfilled. And everyone did some time to get his first horse himself, why don’t you be able to do that with 14.

verreisterNutzer
5 years ago

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