Can I go into IT?
Hey, I'm wondering if I still have a chance of working in IT. I already know CSS, HTML, JavaScript, and Python, and I have some knowledge of Linux and the terminal. However, I have no idea about frameworks. So, I'm not an expert, but I'm already more experienced than the average beginner.
The problem now is that I can't get an IT apprenticeship despite my relatively good secondary school diploma, and I can't afford a boot camp. So, a career change isn't going well either.
Do I still have a chance in IT, or should I just leave it alone? Self-employment is an option, but that would also be very risky. What do you think?
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IT is a huge area, I guess sometimes, you mean software development?
No, you can’t – probably.
Frameworks, however, make up most of the work.
The problem is that the scale, whether someone is a beginner or not, differs in part between hobby programming and professional software development.
What many call “can” are the absolute basics, after which much more comes and the hurdle to large systems is just as big. With only the basics, you can’t develop large enterprise software in a team – or you can do it, but also because more experienced team colleagues compensate for the problems.
Don’t get me wrong, that’s not bad and doesn’t mean that you don’t have a chance, I just want to get to know you’re thinking about the state of your skills. When you get out of the same result as you described in the question, that’s OK, but it can be that you overestimate your skills, which I’m experiencing unfortunately many do.
Everyone starts small and software development is anything but simple, so a healthy scepticism is very important to one’s own abilities, because the danger is great (almost sure) that you see anything.
Say goodbye to the belief that your school degree has any relevance. You may need to justify a bad school degree in the conversation, but a good degree only means that you were good at school, no longer – thanks to the bad school system.
Why you don’t have a training place, I can’t tell you, actually the fact that you learn JavaScript and Python on your own is a good starting point, many don’t do that. Maybe you’ve applied for the wrong idea of your skills? Maybe you’ve only had bad luck.
In software development, attention is usually paid not to notes, but to your mindset, especially for a beginner. As an apprentice, you not only cook your salary (+ social contributions paid by the employer), but also a considerable amount of time for colleagues and this time is more expensive than your time. In addition, it is virtually impossible to announce an apprentice, so they are chained to you for about 3 years.
A company therefore tries to assess whether you are worth this investment and if you can convey a certain enthusiasm and joy in software development, then you have already moved up on the list to a huge amount.
For most of my applications, therefore, an experienced software developer was involved, we usually notice quite quickly how a person thinks about matter and has a lot of influence on decisions about applicants.
So your goal must be to pull this experienced developer on your side, and one likes as good as any good software developer: specialist lashes! However, you must not forget that your counterpart has more experience and, if necessary, a different opinion, but also a “wrong” opinion can be worth a lot if you can justify it well and are willing to see mistakes. And if no experienced developer is there? Also good, technical lays can be imprinted more easily.
Be honest: What is your goal?
Do you want the job because you have Bock on it or because the salaries are good?
If the first one is: yes, keep trying.
If the latter: Let it stay.
Like I said, the job is anything but simple. That you teach JavaScript and Python yourself is worth a lot, not everyone. But you must also be aware that it can be much heavier, that makes it so important to have fun at work.
Apart from that:
9 applications are not much. Look at your applications, get other opinions, etc., in any case: don’t give up so early. I no longer know how many I sent back at that time, but many applications have not been answered at all or rejected with just a few words.
You can also ask ChatGPT when it comes to texts that is really good. But don’t take all that he writes, with some exercise you can see AI generated texts that sound like soulless. Get tips, let your lyrics criticize, but keep your own style of writing.
You can also call there before the application and ask if you can talk to someone (of course formulated better). On the phone you can and should ask questions (show interest) and ideally leave a good impression. It’s not about selling you, but you have to show interest and leave a humanly good impression. A bit of specialist lashes doesn’t hurt here, but your conversation partner probably doesn’t have much time, keep it in mind.
In your application, you can refer to the conversation and with a little luck, your application is no longer just a piece of paper, but the person remembers you, that makes a lot.
And consider what you want to do in the long term and what programming languages are the best choice for it.
If you want to work in data analysis and AI, Python is probably a good choice. But if you prefer to develop desktop applications or large enterprise software, you are better served with Java or C#. Or you want to develop web applications (many new enterprise projects are developed for’s web), then Java, C# or JavaScript. Or do you want robotics? Then C/C++ are valuable languages.
The list is certainly not complete and probably partially incorrect, but what I want to say: Consider what you want to do in the long term, then look for the most suitable programming languages and then apply to companies working in the field.
Among others, yes. But I would also like a job zb in IT Security
Yeah, I know. Unfortunately, I don’t know why I can’t make a cross entrance. But I would naturally do that
Yes, I can. I have not only looked a few tutorials but have already built and hosted web pages (but not commercial)
I wanted to make my hobby a profession. But if I don’t even get a training place, I’ll never get to a job in any way, I feel. 9 applications may be little, but I know those who have received a commitment right after the first application. That demotivates me
There are boat camp providers where training (12 weeks) is free for you if you are following at least. 1 year for her work.
You only have to finance your living during the 3 months.
Why don’t you get a training place?
There must be half an underground school degree and you must be really stupid in the job interview as there is no room to get.
I have a 2.7 so now is not really good but also not underground. And I was not invited to the interview
well nen 2.7’s cut is not now the Knüller, but better than some things I get from certain people in the beedge circle, it should not be
And nine applications are Peanuts, so you just walked warm. There are still people who get the chance on the first ten and then there are also those who have to get 50+ out to get to the train
If after two weeks you have not received an answer/reaction to a job, then you call a hook. In my time it was part of sending a good note and also attaching the documents without writing, but today the NOrmal is that the companies don’t write anything if you don’t belong to the narrower choice, then you shouldn’t have to do it.
Where it’s actually a joke to write in times of mail, it didn’t take ten seconds or you can even automate
How many companies did you advertise? It sounds a bit like you’ve only applied for one and then seen it as a general loss.
I wrote about 10 pieces, and I didn’t get an answer there for about half. With a few companies, I was invited to a conversation without an application. However, the company’s position, which was ultimately established, came through connections. But I know from friends and acquaintances that 10 applications are already quite little and that it often takes more to find something. That’s why just keep going until you find something. I know this is corrosive, but that’s how it is.
That sounds motivating. I was only desperate because my mate was accepted directly at the first application and I did not after 9
No, I’m all year round and don’t go to school anymore. How many applications did you work?
Only once as a hint: when I made my Abi in 2003, it was still absolutely common that you had to send 20, 30, 40 applications for training places. And that not all who did this got one, and it only worked 1, 2 years later after various internships and side jobs and so.
9 applications are therefore truly not the point where you should give up!
That’s what I’m saying, it wasn’t different at first. Just keep looking and someday you’ll find something. In the worst case, it is then a training for next year. It’s gonna be a problem if you’re still in school.
I applied to 9 companies. 4 Cancellations and for the other 5 I am waiting, or I was hosted
Now you can continue looking for training. For example, as a backup, you can also make a school education as an information technology assistant, technical assistant for computer science or the like.
Otherwise you have the possibility to hang a subject and study if necessary.
Otherwise, the question arises whether your application documents fit or there is any problem.
Either you do the CMS fun (WordPress, Wix, Jimbdo, Typo3, …), you don’t have to be an expert.
Or you do it on “professional” level and you need a framework (Angular or React, all others are uninteresting on the German job market).
For Backend, then take Java (Spring).
Java is by no means the hottest backend language on the market (in my opinion) but the most frequently ordered
It’s hard to say, it’s like you’re asking, “Do I still have chances as a baker when I’ve baked bread?”
You have a basis, that is definitely helpful, just how far it is developed is difficult to say. Especially if you don’t have any experience in Frameworks, many possible jobs are lost, and it is not excluded to find something.
To get into the IT field as a cross-release, I would consider difficult. The easiest thing is really about training or studying. Self-employment is always risky, but without a concrete idea or knowledge base on which you can build a company, difficult.
Well, I would definitely go on training by working with apis, frameworks and git, but after that I would not have written without a boat camp
I was thinking of selling website to companies and individuals. But I don’t trust myself
I would recommend you to try to get some form of training and to make self-employment by the way. You should have some form of backup.
But that’s exactly the problem, I don’t get training in IT
With “irgendeine training” I mean now rather any form of training in IT, not in any industry.
I’ve been thinking about it, too, but that would feel like a waste of time. I then practically do a training in an industry that interests me 0