Ist mein Freund dazu verpflichtet?
Hi,
mein Freund wird bald 19 und lebt noch zuhause. Er macht jetzt 01.09 seine zweite Ausbildung. Netto kriegt er ca.800€ raus im 2LJ. Seine Mutter will nun jeden Monat von ihm 400€ haben, das Kindergeld hat sie eh schon und er bekommt jeden Monat Halbweisenrente (180€) die er auch abgeben soll, als „Miete“.
Sein Busticket und seinen Handy Vertrag soll er selber zahlen (ca.60-70€), was wir völlig okay finden. Nur sind wir der Meinung, das knapp 700-800€ jeden Monat an seine Eltern für Miete Abzugeben schon krass ist, vorallem da sie keinesfalls in einem Riesen Luxus Haus wohnen.
Bsp.: Das Zimmer meines Freundes stand schon 2 mal Unterwasser wegen Hochwasser und an der wand zu seinem Bad ist sogar Schimmel. Sein Bad fällt halb auseinander und weder Zimmer noch sonst was hat ne Wärmedämmung oder so, da er in einer alten Garage wohnt, ca.45qm.
Wochenende (Freitag Nachmittag – Sonntag Nachmittag) ist er IMMER bei mir und zuhause gibt es bei ihm auch NUR Abendessen, auch Wochenends. Am Kühlschrank oben darf er sich nicht bedienen und auch sonst dort nichts verwenden 🙂
Wir finden das absolut überheblich und unverständlich, dass er so viel Geld abheben muss, zumal ein 3 Personen Haushalt Nebenkosten von 200-400€ hat.
Mit den Handyvertrag und Fahrtkosten hat er kein Problem, und auch dass seine Mutter das Kindergeld (250€) behält ist für ihn kein Problem, aber DANN noch von seinem Gehalt und SEINER Halbwaisenrente abzugreifen sehe ich als unverschämt an!
Kann man da irgendwie was machen? Ausziehen wäre noch nicht so eine Option, da hier Wohnungen sehr teuer sind und er Mit dem Bus zur Arbeit muss (er hat Kein Auto/ Führerschein zahlt er selbst) und zu mir ist auch ungünstig, da wir erst seit 2 Jahren zusammen sind.
Gibt es irgendwelche Möglichkeiten?
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(FALSCHE statement before EDIT s.u.) He doesn’t have to pay any cost, but he should remember that you can throw him out at home. And in the case of compensation + child allowance + half-waisenrente, it would then be realistic for the mother to leave any maintenance.
EDIT I have just read 2. Training : then no maintenance is required anyway and the mother may demand rent and cost coverage according to ECHTE.
Yes, we know, but you have to say that his “room” is an old, non-insulated garage in which on a wall is also mold. Qm so 40, that would be more than 500€ despite all NIEMALS
if this is his second vocational training, then he has already “used” his legal right to maintenance (occupation/catering) over his parents.
Nevertheless, this attitude sounds like “rabenelterns” that exploit her child according to “slash and thread”, even if they are wealthy themselves. they don’t think of old, if you could possibly be dependent on the help or support of your children and who can then sweetly “raise”.
the only possibility and the child’s money for own use.
Only on the edge: This is not allowed if no change of use has been approved. Garage is a parking space for vehicles, definitely not a living room.
Then he’ll have to look out.
It’s stupid, but well. Your friend is free to live elsewhere. Whether he gets full board for 700-800 Euro? No.
Although the parents are a bit asi, on the other hand, of course, for the hard to feed him further despite training. Of 700 euros a month you can’t really live.
An alternative would be a community or sub-rent until the completion of the training. he can apply for housing.
At the bottom he now has mx 100 euros if he pays the driver’s license himself.
What the mother demands is a real house brand, I never thought of my children.
Well, the mother doesn’t really have a right to it, but can throw it out. In addition, she gets the child’s money as long as your friend lives with her.
Your friend has to talk to his mother once and make a festive agreement. for example, she gets 200€ each month, which is already compensated for by the child money.
Otherwise, he could also apply for BAföG and move to his own apartment.
It’s just going out! Together with the child’s money, he has over EUR 1000 and should look after a furnished WG room. It doesn’t have to be an apartment!
Maybe his mother is still “soft” and gets financially countered to him. But if not, he has little options!
I would contact the Youth Office and want to achieve a fair rent with the help of the Youth Office.
But it would be important for her to make the right information. Once you write of 180 € child money, sometimes of 250 €. Once you write of 400 € that are to be made, sometimes of 700-800 € rent. Your numbers should fit.
The youth office is completely out of here, the mother no longer has a duty to maintain the child.
there is such a kind of aftercare task at the youth office, which just after 18th Year of life.
The 180€ are semi-performing pension, the 250€ child benefit. The 400€ is half of his salary he is supposed to sheet and the 700-800€ is to be the total amount he is to pay (composed of HWrente, Kigeld and half salary)