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Rolf42
3 years ago

For this purpose, corresponding monitoring and securing devices would have to be installed on the rail tracks provided for this purpose and, of course, suitable trains would have to be used.

In particular, the retrofitting of the stations is problematic when one sees how the platforms are separated from the track area for safety reasons with glass walls and sliding doors. This may work with a system completely separate from the rest of the traffic, and this is likely to be difficult in the case of railings in the free landscape.

On the other hand, the safety systems must not be so sensitive that any animal running over the tracks will lead to a roadblock.

In short, this would not be a problem, and even if the problems could be solved, it would be a billion project whose implementation would probably take decades. Until complete implementation, there would be either a mixing operation, or one would have to dispense with continuous trains between automated and non-automatic routes (which would lead to more frequent change).

olfinger
3 years ago

Yes, if the technology is provided for that would be possible. Up to a certain part, this is already the case, if some trains/routes require only one supervisor who monitors the automated traffic and, if necessary, intervenes manually.

Undergrounds also operate completely automated (also in Germany) and without a lock driver, but until this technology expands on the nationwide rail network a few more times.

Test1ccount123
3 years ago

Theoretically, perhaps, but in rail traffic unexpected things can happen, which is why this would be practically difficult to implement. Therefore, even in aircraft, pilots must always be based because unexpected things can also occur there. Since such things are unlikely at the suspension/swivel track in Düsseldorf, it can of course also drive PC-controlled.

xyz911
3 years ago

This would be technically possible if the vehicles and routes concerned were equipped with the necessary technology. First publicly accessible journeys with open and modular technology took place in Hamburg 2 weeks ago.

Up to a large-scale rollout, however, it will take longer, only because there is not enough staff to modernise the control unit technology.

Lezurex
3 years ago

Theoretically yes. At the moment we’re not ready yet. The infrastructure must also be designed for this.

On most high-speed lines, the trains are already almost fully automated by means of LZB.

Some subway and metro systems are also operated fully automatically. In Paris, for example, there are already a few.

ampmark
3 years ago

In principle, this would be relatively easy to implement. Especially since the trains go to (sight) signal. One could transmit exactly as well a control signal that releases the travel for the section.
If you do something new, you have to give up the old one. So many people have very big problems. They are looking for reasons until they find something shiny instead of looking for a solution in half time,

Meliora
3 years ago

Theoretically safe, practically not. Because too many variables require human intervention. That is why steel works, auto production, waste incineration plants, computer construction, airports, aircraft, flight oversight, trams etc. are still monitored by people.

SirAndiusNr2
3 years ago

Maybe, but better not. A AI is never like a human being. You can better assess abstract situation and prevent accidents or disasters. A AI to support would not be bad

AnakinZockt
3 years ago
Reply to  SirAndiusNr2

I think a well-developed AI makes fewer mistakes than people. I’m more likely to feel that people feel worse about situations

SirAndiusNr2
3 years ago
Reply to  AnakinZockt

There was an attack on the track. A AI wouldn’t have recognized that. I wonder how a person could recognize it in time. I guess it was a gut feeling.

What do you do with minor defects or if it doesn’t go on? There must be someone who leads people

xyz911
3 years ago
Reply to  SirAndiusNr2

Automated driving is not about AI, but primarily about the necessary control technology

AlexausBue
3 years ago

Theoretically, that would be possible.

AnakinZockt
3 years ago

Theoretically Yes, Practically at this moment No.

gertraudeZ
3 years ago
Reply to  AnakinZockt

The metro in Nuremberg has been driving without drivers for years, only there is the security largely secured because of the non-access of the driving areas. Otherwise, extremists could easily practice sabotage acts, I am thinking of Leipzig, where trams came to a standstill through left autonomists by burning barricades (as on 23.10.21 ).

AnakinZockt
3 years ago
Reply to  gertraudeZ

Cool the question asks for all the moves. And my answer is correct despite that.

You can’t do that now at this moment you’d have to evade all the moves with appropriate technology and probably also program new software and schedules, etc.

tinalisatina
3 years ago

No, the trains and the track network should be equipped accordingly.

tinalisatina
3 years ago
Reply to  PlayboyBond

This means that according to the current state of the art it is not possible. Theoretically, however, the technology can be developed in such a way that it works automatically (computer-controlled).

Dultus, UserMod Light
Reply to  PlayboyBond

This means theoretically yes when the infrastructure is expanded.

Reinkanation
3 years ago

If they are accordingly skeleton