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sunshine2806
1 year ago

No, there’s no child abuse in my eyes. Sometimes, unfortunately, it is not different when the children are overreacting so that it is no longer possible with words. Is fortunately the exception with us.

Unfortunately, today is often raised to “softly”, i.e., the children have all freedoms without consequences and also exploit them. Whether in school, in public or at home. Respect and knowing when enough is part of an education.

LG

AlexB86
1 year ago
Reply to  sunshine2806

You’ve written very nicely. It’s my opinion.

sunshine2806
1 year ago
Reply to  AlexB86

Thank you

FleckiKarlos
1 year ago

No, even though there are probably many users outraged: I find a claw on the Po is not a child abuse.

There are children who do not want to hear after several warnings or warnings. In these situations, a claw on the Po must be the last possibility.

It is also about protecting children from danger. If they put themselves over bans and don’t want to hear, I think a claw is justified.

Of course, every child is different, but unfortunately, the respect for older and also adults is becoming increasingly apparent. Do I have to judge myself as an adult by a child or make me foolish? Many children laugh about being vaccinated, house arrest or cell phone ban.

A claw is still a big difference than a punch!

Belliwell
1 year ago

The flap is clearly violence.
Because the child cannot resist, neither with a counteraction nor communication. And if the child is naughty and does not hear, the child is not guilty, but the parents. Because they may not have the child under control. Or because they have taken control away after they have reacted wrong to border testing.

If parents promise and don’t comply, the parents make themselves unbelievable. And the conclusion is that the child does not hear the next or the next time. So if parents say no, they should stay with no. And if they say yes, they should stay with you. Because the child will remember, Mom and Dad don’t think what they say, or they always make exceptions.

And with the exception or deviation from a rule, the child will then cross the next time because it knows, okay, I have to pull these ribs so that they react so and so. In the end, I have received either attention or sweet stuff or otherwise my will. I’m the winner. The flap that would follow, the child notices, and will demand his will differently. The flap is stored in the memory and the next flap comes in the kita, or in the school. Because the child noticed if Mom and Dad want to do something, there’s a flap. So I do it with others and get what I want.

Violence produces new violent people. And that’s not a good base for a child.

From a certain age you can set up and introduce rules and consequences with the child. And then it will be traded. The child is involved and knows exactly what blossoms him if things don’t run as agreed. And also here…. no exceptions. A no remains a no and one yes remains one yes. Otherwise everything was for free.

hugyou
1 year ago

Article 2 prohibition of discrimination]

(1) The Contracting States shall respect the rights laid down in this Convention and shall ensure that each child under their jurisdiction is free of any discrimination irrespective of race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other view, national, ethnic or social origin, property, disability, birth or other status of the child, his parents or his guardian.

(2) The Contracting States shall take all appropriate measures to ensure that the child is in front of all forms of the child. Discrimination or punishment for the status, activities, expressions of opinion or belief of his parents, guardian or family members.

Article 12

Article 16 [Protection of privacy and honor]

Article 19 [Protection against violence, abuse, detention]

(1) The Contracting States shall take all appropriate legislative, administrative, social and educational measures to protect the child from any form of physical or mental violence, damages or mistreatment, from loss of custody or neglect, from poor treatment or exploitation, including sexual abuse, as long as it is in the care of parents or a parent, guardian or other legal representative or another child.

(2) Various protective measures shall contain, depending on the circumstances, effective procedures for establishing social programmes which provide the child and those responsible for it with the necessary support and other forms of prevention, as well as measures for detecting, reporting, remittance, investigation, treatment and follow-up in the cases described in paragraph 1 of poor treatment of children and, where appropriate, for the intervention of the courts.

https://www.kinderrechte.de/kinderrechte/un-kinderrechtskonvention-im-wortlaut/#c3262

point1of1view
1 year ago

Violence no, but: a claw can safely get the little ones out of their current wow. So according to the motto: but now is over.

Maybe it doesn’t have to be so far that the child is so extremely behaving.

Weak parents raise weak children.

Many parents should be more consistent. Children quickly notice whether parents are weak and undisciplined. Just cry and tombs to go no longer, then I get what I want – just always 😊

FleckiKarlos
1 year ago
Reply to  point1of1view

That’s the point. I am full of your opinion. Thank you so much for saying so. VG

KSOctopussKS
1 year ago

not every clap is also a punishment. Some parents just do that.

Truffernoemie
1 year ago
Reply to  KSOctopussKS

Because they’re on bdsm or what?

AnOnYmOsJ
1 year ago

It doesn’t matter. It is in fact a mistreatment.

Sniffyz13
1 year ago
Reply to  AnOnYmOsJ

So don’t make any difference if it gets a buff or fist beats?

AnOnYmOsJ
1 year ago
Reply to  Sniffyz13

Both are bad and cannot be compared. It is violence and has immense consequences for the child…

hugyou
1 year ago
Reply to  Sniffyz13

But a punch will probably hurt more. To justify violent behavior with it that it was “just” a flap is a relativization. (It could have been worse) Violence above all towards children is wrong in my opinion.

LeWe23
1 year ago
Reply to  Sniffyz13

No, it doesn’t. Both are violence, injuries and child abuse. Luckily both punishable.

Niemandmann
1 year ago

“Shrink knocking” is not identical with ass. You should differentiate.

LeWe23
1 year ago

I don’t care. The legal situation is crucial and it clearly says: YES!

coco6435
1 year ago

I call education

nai96
1 year ago

This depends entirely on the frequency, intention and the degree of strength.
If you always get those with the belt as a criminal measure, you can probably call it that.

If you slip your hand out or you have lost patience in life, you can’t talk about abuse

LeWe23
1 year ago
Reply to  nai96

No, it’s not coming. It’s IMMER’s abuse, body injury and STRAFBAR!

nai96
1 year ago
Reply to  LeWe23

I don’t like it either.

However, for example, a single-parent mother – who once took action in her life, used little strength and regretted it – can be accused of mistreating her child.

Rendric
1 year ago
Reply to  nai96

That’s the definition. Especially since the Po is particularly humiliating again and it can no longer be an affect action, because this is not really the “suction height”.

nai96
1 year ago
Reply to  Rendric

I think it’s a good idea. If you’re a really good parent who didn’t know any more in life and has applied very little strength, you can’t talk about child abuse directly

hugyou
1 year ago
Reply to  nai96

Where are your limits? 1x a week is okay, 2x too much? With the hand, but not with the belt?

nai96
1 year ago
Reply to  hugyou

No. I’m talking about the fact that there may be 1 in life as an exception. Whoever uses it as an educational measure, abuses his child. If parents have so little control that they are constantly losing, this is not a proper way of dealing.

nai96
1 year ago

Although it is not legally accepted, it is very well judged by the severity. Especially since the child is not taken away directly

LeWe23
1 year ago

The best thing is to bring it far away from an adult who beats it.

nai96
1 year ago

No, it’s estimated what’s best for the child. You think it’s better for a child to take away the family, the usual environment, and a really loving and good mother who was once overwhelmed?

You don’t really think a child like that has better in a children’s home? The Youth Office probably doesn’t think it. Especially since it can most probably not be detected. How easy it does not work

LeWe23
1 year ago

No, it’s NIE. And if so, a SOFORT should be deprived of the handling of the child.

LeWe23
1 year ago

No. There is no context in which child abuse is legally accepted. Not one.

LeWe23
1 year ago

Yes, it will. And that’s all right.

nai96
1 year ago

However, the context is also seen here.

nai96
1 year ago

No, she won’t. I think your opinion is very extreme. Of course this is not good and that should not happen. Nevertheless, this does not create a neglected and mistreated child. No one will take care of a child with a mother who otherwise gives everything and who does not happen anymore (Thank God)

LeWe23
1 year ago

Your opinion is fortunately irrelevant. It is and remains punishable by IMMER and AUSNAHMSLOS and is always punished.

LeWe23
1 year ago

Yes, you can, you must and you will. She doesn’t have her child to beat. You too, fortunately, are prohibited from dealing with SOFORT.

verreisterNutzer
1 year ago

So it’s just the defenition, if you get a child, no matter where, you call the child’s treat.

is that bad?

I don’t know if it really hurts the ending. but if you think it’s good or you need it yourself to educate a child, you should really think big, that’s not normal mM.

Nanami789
1 year ago

I find more harmless than getting chimp

LeWe23
1 year ago
Reply to  Nanami789

Please? Violence is less serious than harassment? What’s wrong with you?

Nanami789
1 year ago
Reply to  LeWe23

This is my feeling

LeWe23
1 year ago

So you feel crimes against children as okay.

Sphil3ia
1 year ago

No, it’s not for me at all.

LeWe23
1 year ago
Reply to  Sphil3ia

So you’re gonna find criminal body injury okay? Why?

Sphil3ia
1 year ago
Reply to  LeWe23

For me, this isn’t a bodily injury if you give a blow.

LeWe23
1 year ago

It doesn’t matter. In accordance with applicable law, it is. Everything else doesn’t matter. Luckily HAST DU GAR NOT to report and lose dealing with your children.

Sniffyz13
1 year ago

A claw is a claw.

LeWe23
1 year ago
Reply to  Sniffyz13

No. A “Klaps” is body injury, punishable, and costs you with your child.

Sniffyz13
1 year ago
Reply to  LeWe23

You don’t seem to know what a claw is.

LeWe23
1 year ago

But I know: injury, child abuse and a crime!