Ist dieser PC – Build Gut?
Hallo liebe PC Build Community,
ich habe eine Frage an euch die sich selbst nicht zu beantworten weiß.
Undzwar möchte ich mir folgenden PC Zusammmenbauen aus folgenden Teilen.
(Preis ist an der stelle nicht relevant als Aussagegeber)
(Bitte nur auf die Zusammenstellung eingehen)
Der PC soll für reines Gaming ausgelegt sein und ab und zu mal paar Officearbeiten (Excel, Word, Videos schneiden)
Aber Primär GAMING!!!!!
Also hier mal die Specs des Rechners:
Betriebssystem
Windows 11 Home
AMD Ryzen™ 7 8700G
(max. Boost-Taktung bis zu 5,1 GHz, 16 MB L3-Cache, 8 Kerne, 16 Threads)
iGPU-ModellAMD Radeon 780M
IGPU Takt: 2,90GHz
Chipsatz
AMD B650
Festplatte
2 TB PCIe® Gen4 NVMe™ Performance M.2 SSD
Netzteiltyp
850 W 80 Plus Gold-zertifiziertes ATX-Netzteil
Arbeitsspeicher
Kingston FURY 32 GB DDR5-6000 MT/s XMP RGB Kühlkörper (2x 16 GB) Datenübertragungsraten von bis zu 6000 MT/s. 2 x 16 GB
Grafikkarte (diskret)
NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 4070 Ti SUPER (16 GB GDDR6X dediziert)
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Hello,
up to the processor, this looks quite acceptable. Switch to a Ryzen 5 7600x3D. The rest of the system is unfortunately unspecified, so you cannot judge it.
LG
but so much
Apart from that, without specific information on SSD/Mainboard/Network, one has to start from the least-favoured cremation, which does not make it recommended. Furthermore, a housing as well as a CPU cooler is missing and the CPU makes no sense with a dGPU
What do you mean?
Housing is a 35L of HP Omen
So it’s a HP prefabricated PC? Just let the fingers of these junk piles! They usually have massive temperature problems, upgrades are not changing due to propionic components (such as case, power supply or sometimes even the CPU cooler. Take a look at Youtube at Gamersnexus for some videos about the HP Dingers if you can get enough English. He looked at these buckets. Result is always the same. (Dell as well).
Well, you didn’t say anything
What’s the fun?
DIe have pulled on the winning maximization pipe with a lot of imagination 😀
I see the Kingston Fury RAM is actually standard at the box. Look, I wrote Corsair earlier, that warn fail
I don’t know what they thought about the case. Sell those still for $349. I don’t know what they smoked, but it wasn’t healthy
https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp/omen-by-hp-45l-atx-case-gt20-0230t-pc
VIl made Corsair HP a good offer for his Ram? And since Corsair is well advertised, you write it down?
I don’t know. It’s all over me. I probably didn’t miss anything, or would they still do that?
I think they sold some, yes, but as far as I know the Omen 45L
Are there any HP Omen Cases on the normal market?
I think that’s what I’m thinking, but I’m gonna put it together and the Corsair RAM won’t fit.
If so, HP wants 2500€
https://www.hp.com/de-de/shop/product.aspx?id=AN0G3EA&opt=ABD&sel=DTP
Guaranteed too much. Is Apparent HP ReadyPC 😀
The PRIS usually determines whether something is good or bad! First right at a pre-made PC! At a particularly favorable price (i.e. under self-construction costs) I am more willing to accept deficits in the confectionery & possibly to improve myself. At a high cost MUSS the config & service should be perfect & guarantee should take min 3 years.
But as it reads above, neither the SSD nor the power supply or the motherboard is fixed. Especially in the two last parts SIs like to save & partly very much! In some cases, really adventurous motherboards are installed (Chinaböller is brilliant because they like to explode)! In such offers, the price is irrelevant.
To answer your question:
The PC standalone is rather poorly configured & not recommended. Why?
CPU: The CPU is an APU. That is, it comes with half cache (16MB instead of 32MB) & only PCIe 4 support. Do you know why the X3D CPUs are the fastest gaming CPUs on the market? Because these Caches have (32+64MB). This is reduced here. The effects should be self-explanatory.
That’s not the worst. This CPU has only 20 PCIe Lanes of which 16 are available. Your GPU wants to have 16. Your SSD 4. PCIe usually supports only the following types of connection: x1 x2 x4 x8 & x16. Since there are not enough lanes available to connect both the Graka and the SSD completely, the connection of your Graka decreases from x16 to x8. It’s not ideal.
In addition, the CPU is already in WQHD to become a lightweight bottleneck for the Graka, enhanced by the lower PCIe connection.
Mainboard: It’s not exactly named. This usually has a good reason for SIs, because then the last ramschware that no one would buy is often installed. These often have not even cooled voltage converters… A NoGo mMn.
Power supply: Also not named. Also a NoGo. The power supply is with the most important part in the PC, it adjusts the input voltage to the voltages (12, 5 & 3,3v) required for the PC. In addition, it offers the protective dimensions in the case of cases for e.g. overcurrent or overload. If this failure can be fast that your whole PC is up. In the Worst case, even the apartment can burn off!!! Here you should not save too much! There are cheap & just unfortunately also cheap. Therefore, it should be clear what is installed. I don’t know & I can’t experience it, I’m sure I won’t buy it.
Ram: The timings are not specified. However, these are especially important for PCs that are driven by a CPU OHNE 3D Vcache (X3D CPUs)! Because the timings & here above all the CL value (desto lower the better) strongly influence the frametimes, i.e. the 0.1 & 1% low FPS. For example, if you have 200FPS, these are only the avg. value. A value of the test whether the game could seem liquid at all. But the frametime says in truth whether a game feels liquid! Because if this jumps high and down, that is inconstant, even 200FPS do not feel very liquid. This is, for example, the reason why a film can be viewed in a liquid state, although it is usually played with 24 FPS. But since these images come at a perfect distance & no input light is exested, hold 24 FPS are liquid.
SSD: Also not named here. Although it does not usually make a difference, as all m.2 SSD is sufficient to shock. If I had a good offer, I would probably take it. However, this further completes the bad impression.
FAZIT: If you can’t buy the PC just 300€ under self-construction costs, I’d leave my fingers off. Too much is unclear, probably intentional.
If you want to buy a ReadyPC, find out one of them:
dubaro.de
krotus-computer.de
Hardwarerat.de
mypc.de
For example, this would be clearly better configured than your proposed:
Nvidia: https://www.dubaro.de/Partner/KreativEcke-Editions/KREATIVECKE-2000:5998.html
AMD Alternative: https://hardwarerat.de/computerpc/gaming-pcs/288/gaming-pc-hardwarerat-1900.1-rx7900xtx-ryzen-9700x-32gb-dddr5-2tb-nvme-win11?c=78
100€ more expensive than the other & much simpler, but with much more steam in the boiler!
First of all, thank you for your honest opinion and this PC is a gift made to me by my wife and I don’t have to have high endgame in graphics right now. With me, it’s enough if the settings are all high. And I don’t really need Ray Tracing, but the setup should work anyway or not
If you already have the PC & he was given to you, congratulations. He’ll do his job. However, at the next time I guess I’m informing in advance. For money (if it is the HP ReadyPC), there are clearly better systems…
Then I can advise you individually without having to write a half novel…
There are also solutions for this. Believe me, such a prefabricated PC at the end mainly makes one: headache. If you have discord please come by if you like: https://discord.gg/AqXVDP8s
The thing is, we rented the PC at Grover because we don’t want to pay the whole amount at once, and putting it together from the PCs lasts a certain time and if you make a financing, you have to pay it anyway and at Grover you can return the PC at any time
For example, I would always advise you about Finish PCs of the Great Manufacturers, for various reasons!
Do you have time and discord as well as a mic? I would like to help you buy the right PC for you, not that you buy a ready-made PC which is a pipe crepeer. (of which there are inconceivable many)
I have spoken with my rough and we will return the probably innermost of the 14 days right. because we found one exactly the same only with an I7 14700F with 20 cores
The Graka & CPU function better than team in higher resolutions (Ab WQHD) because the CPU is significantly too weak to supply the 4070ti S in FHD with sufficient data to fully load it. But you can say clearly: CPU & GPU are not very well combined…
Of course, that doesn’t mean you have more FPS in WQHD than in FHD. However, your ridge is more loaded, i.e. less GPU power is broke.
Thus, it is theoretically possible that the PC compilation is well suited for high resolutions, i.e. in conjunction with DLS SR or such as i.e.
All right. I just wanted to say it for the future. Remember, the less your resolution, the more the CPU has to do. Your Graka is perfect for WQHD Gaming. In FHD, your CPU will slow the ridge quite clearly. D.H your Graka could deliver more FPS if the CPU would provide more raw data.
Ok thank you could previously play nir games on average or even on low
me is important that I have better textures this time is 4K not important to me already 1080 out on high preset
you have
Yes normal it is good xD what should not be good
Make me dizzy because of the CPU that is no longer so modern :/
The build is really good, don’t worry.
Fits full
Not really. Is cheap around the Graka around how you can quickly see…