Is this behavior normal for a 9th grade student intern?
My son's school held a Boy's Day this spring, which he spent at my company.
His classmate and friend was with his father at the company.
This was followed by a one-day trial internship, which my son was able to complete in the same department.
His friend couldn't spend the internship with his father this time and apparently received rejections for four or five applications elsewhere.
To ensure he didn't miss out, I asked my company about it and was able to place him in the technical apprenticeship department. They're both 14 and in 9th grade.
I also offered to take him with me in the morning and afternoon. Student interns also receive free drinking water and lunch in our canteen.
The plan was for the two guys to be there the same amount of time as me, namely 7.5 hours including breaks, so I'd be in charge of the process. You can only enter the company with an escort or with a registration and visitor's pass, and the hallway doors aren't open for everyone.
That worked out quite well and now they are back again, this time for a three-week internship in separate departments, again with pick-up, starting at 8am and finishing with drop-off at 3:30pm.
On Monday morning, I got stuck in traffic on my way to pick up the boy. Because of the traffic and the detour, I arrived 15 minutes late (I have flexitime, but I like to start at 8 am).
So I said we'd pick him up a few minutes earlier tomorrow.
When he arrived at the company, he said that he had to finish work promptly at 3:30 pm because he had a vaccination appointment in the afternoon.
I asked myself why the mother hadn't informed me, or why I hadn't heard any questions or agreements from her or her son beforehand.
On Friday the boys were still at school and until late Sunday evening there was no question about what time he would start in the morning, when I would pick him up or how long the workday would last.
Personally, I found him rather uninterested, especially since I had secured the spot for him after four rejections. He did receive a thank you, but otherwise no questions, nothing.
I found it a bit strange why a vaccination appointment was scheduled for the early afternoon of the first day of the internship without clarifying it.
I then arranged for the trainer to have certain trainees look after him until 2 pm and then for the last 90 minutes with those who were still there.
At 3:30 pm he would then be sent to the exit, where I could take him with me.
At 3:15 pm, a trainee called me to ask if the boy was with me, as he was gone.
Since he wasn't with me, I asked him to please check if he was already at the exit, and the doorman then informed us that the boy had already been picked up by his mother at 3:10 pm
Shortly afterwards, my son received a WhatsApp message saying that he was already on his way.
My son wrote back that he should remember that we will not be picking him up tomorrow (today) at 7:50, but at 7:35-7:40.
The boy then always waits on the street a few steps away from the house in his play street.
In the morning, my son texted from the road that we'd be there at 7:34 am No response.
He then called and the friend said he would come out.
He wasn't there at 7:34 am, but didn't come out until 7:39 am, even though he knew we had to leave. The walk from the house to the car would have only been a minute.
At the end of the day, we planned to pick him up at the entrance at 3:30 pm, but he wasn't there. The trainee room was also empty.
Shortly thereafter, at 3:33 pm, my son received a WhatsApp message saying that he had already taken the train. There was nothing left to do and it was boring.
Although it was agreed in the morning and generally with his mother that he would come with me.
I don't bother going out of my way to pick it up and drop it off, as I can drive straight through the main road and motorway without it.
But I still find these last-minute changes to plans, where you're presented with a fait accompli without any consultation and have to look for him within the company first, a bit sloppy.
I would have expected more coordination from the mother, too. You somehow feel like you have to carry them around and they do what you want.
I also find it strange that you just finish your internship early, even though something else was agreed upon with your trainer.
Or is it normal to be non-binding about working hours during an internship and to schedule appointments during that time?
Meanwhile, my son was tinkering until the end of the day and had to be asked to ring in the end time.
I'm starting to get the feeling that my friend is lacking motivation and seriousness.
There were some classmates who didn't get an internship at all and had to sit through the three weeks in 8th and 10th grade, and after the four rejections, I thought I'd do him a favor.
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Normally it is not, but also not worrying – it always comes up to how you see it yourself. I say it like this: Probably there is a massive lack of "input" in the family, someone who "trieves" the boy a little bit and specifies the direction and his own will – and a 14-year-old is often still very driveless in "important" things or not always able to be rational or much more structured. Children and adolescents or people in general, but above all children and adolescents are always the mirrors of their environment and their family – nothing comes nothing.
This can happen, I have also gained the feeling subjectively during your description (that the bubble is powerless and possibly involuntary, or has no anchor & is one that is perhaps more pampered or neglected from home than being concerned about it) – but on the other hand, many 14-year-olds of both sexes are like that. I used to have some interns, who were often also objectively unable to do anything alone at 16/17, let alone to go to work in some way. With a 14-year-old, you can't assume everything, but if someone is 16/17 and it's about to end with the guilt, more "Drive" should be behind it.
Probably your boy has been well educated, became relatively independent early and has seen the world from other perspectives than this boy, whose world was possibly very constant and who never had to worry about anything.
He's going sooner every day and driving by the train, less detour for me.
Is probably the better solution for everyone (also for him).
I was so sorry for having received 4 cancellations. However, the application should not have been so stupid, it lacked a lot and he did not write when he wanted to come.
That really sounds very ungrateful.
But I'm still going to let myself say: there are 14-year-old children. I find that the full meaning and seriousness of the whole action do not necessarily understand and consider and treat it like annoying homework from school, relatively age-appropriate. Student internships do not really have a high learning effect, and this is only a few days to weeks and unpaid, of course. Therefore, 14-year-old pupils cannot be assessed on the same scale as 19-year-old trainees. And in this respect, for example, with the vaccination date: Yes, a 14-year-old intern (or his parents) may actually rely on having concluded on time, especially when the reason he came too late in the morning was outside his influencing ability. It is not about fulfilling an employment contract, but rather that children get a basic impression of the working world and of the profession. Of course, that you had a massive problem and that it caused a lot of unnecessary communication is also clear. As far as his mother is concerned, who knows how much she's ever been told by her son. But yes, I agree that she would be the one who should take responsibility here now and ideally teach her son a little to take them for himself.
With the early going and the 5 minutes delay, I basically understand your point, but in the category of “don't go” that is not yet for me, not for a 14-year-old who does three weeks pupil internship. I'd say, as a proposal for a solution, that you just won't drive him any more from tomorrow. You got him the internship, you don't have to be his taxi for a long time. Your working day does not allow consideration of his desire times, so either his mother can push him or he can take the public.
He didn't have to stay any longer because of the delay. It was fixed between me, him and the instructor that every day goes up to 3:30 p.m.
Oh, okay, I got that wrong. Still, what do you want to do now? A fourteen-year-old pupil trainee for 3 weeks will give a warning so that he may receive a second or third in the next days and be terminated before the end of the 3 weeks? This pupil's internship has zero relevance for his later career, and he is simply an immature fourteen-year-old. In my opinion, the best and easiest thing is for you to save the stress with the ride and the excitement and let his mother somehow handle the problem.
And after all, someone with you must not only have left him unattended, but also.
He just said that he doesn't want a rating, because he doesn't think he broke something yesterday and it's boring.
Yeah, that's exactly what I think. And that's why I say yes, let that go they were a problem, and just don't drive him anymore, you I don't have this stress anymore.
No, he just left and unauthorized the chip to open the door with taken home.
It's not about demolition! It's about the lasting impression that he leaves and the additional streak that he makes me do with it.
Or do you think that when assessing and visiting teachers, there are no disagreements?
That was/is totally sweet of you to make this effort.
Don't compare the boy with your son. Of course, he's getting worse and worse. There are other circumstances for him. He's his own person. Apparently, for some reason, he is difficult with the internship – for a long time, it does not correspond to his interests, he feels uncertain, etc. There can be many reasons.
His behavior is normal. He's 14 and has to learn a lot.
Did you ever talk to his mother? Maybe he had told her something else.
In any case, I would like to explain to him that this is not okay so that you can make a lot of effort and keep him in tuning, or to let him know in time and if he wants to cancel the internship, he should do that instead of behave like that.
No, his mother hasn't shown a great interest since the beginning and I don't care if he finds fun or not.
He always wants to go home by himself, which is good for me, because I don't have to drive the way around.
Today on the way, he said it was so boring that he wouldn't want to have an assessment at the end, because he didn't see any sense in it and yesterday at the practical work he also broke something.
I wish him a lot of fun in professional life.
It almost sounds like you were hurt personally. You don't care.
I find it a little unfair to condemn him. Every person has different interests and skills and he is only 14. There is still a lot to develop.
I'm glad you tried and stay as you are. 😊 helpfulness sometimes comes in the right place. 👍
People have problems…
He wants to do this for the first day. You don't think you're holding much of the work.
I don't want to be harmless, sorry if it's coming over like that. The only problem is that you make a huge wind, because of a 14-year-old intern.
The more I read from you, the more I understand why he doesn't want to go with you anymore.
Oh, my God! Come on down!
Who talks about MAJOR damage? He was under supervision. There was someone right next. What is the responsibility of extra punctuality and reliability? I don't have to stand for anything but parental liability insurance.
No, I don't know. But I think you're giving too much responsibility to a 14-year-old INTERN.
On his side, an internship instructor has to stand, which should ensure that the trainee does nothing "putt".
Responsible tasks that can cause great damage are transferred to a young intern only under supervision or even not at all!
If I assign such tasks to the intern in my company and what goes wrong, then I have to stand for it!
If he breaks something, isn't it to relax? Do you know our company? Apparently not.
Relax. It's just a typical 14-year-old intern.
Your company doesn't take the least damage. Neither financial nor otherwise. Who knows, maybe his internship directors are also responsible. After that, everything will continue as before and in a month no one thinks about it.
Yeah, but I brought him in here and that doesn't make a good impression, sorry. Luckily, colleagues know I'm not like that, but you don't have to break something right away when you're strange.
If I want to get another intern or trainee in here, the company will consider the 2x. With this, listless people leave burned earth for those who want to come after it.
This has nothing to do with personal injury, but with resentment.
Yeah, it's normal, it doesn't make him fun, and you can tell me I'm not going to finish you anymore.
He is 14 and not everyone likes your son.
That is why my career will not have a serious start.
Besides, he was here two days. Nobody forced him to hang on the 3 weeks.
"Asterixundo" – thanks 👍
Nobody forces him to the internship.
First of all, the answer to your question: neither mother nor son have acted correctly/normally (bad education?)
Behavior is not to generalize.
Too bad that your willingness to help was rewarded so ungratefully.
If he lets me wait again in the morning, he'll go by the train for the next two weeks or he'll have his time in school.
My son finds the "working" totally cool compared to school and also frees himself via the free lunch and the great selection in the canteen.
This would be an understandable and even the logical consequence of his ingratiable action.
I'm sure I don't want to build mine lessons, just because someone I do a favor is coming too late. But it's not different at school, my son says.
Don't give him a good assessment and talk to his intern.
He had only announced one of his trainees yesterday because of the generous interpretation of the working time. That's what the boy got.
Falls for me in 2 categories: lack of insurrection and prosperity.
I didn't know the term yet. I need to remember.
His family actually has it thicker than us, and we are not poor either.
The father is a high animal in insurance and probably rarely there, while the mother preferably takes care of the 2 smaller ones and goes back to work.
Actually, she could have got an internship at Kita. Sometimes there's some lack of motivation. I think the boy's on the side.
There's only one thing I remember: And thanks to the world's wages.
I feel kind of nasty. Also from his mother, who is simply vaccination appointments, without clarifying when is the evening.
Yeah, of course, you're getting really fucked up. I'm sorry for the word choice. Other children would be totally happy, especially if you have to press the school bench for 3-4 weeks.
The mother seems to pass the "A".
It's a pity that this behavior might lead to the chances of future training.
There is no good picture if you're looking for it and then you've already gone home.
However, I have the impression that he does not understand the seriousness or meaning of the action.
As you said, this can result in a training place, we offer other training professions together with the parent company. Even if what he's doing is not so exciting (which I don't think is going through several departments), one has already marked the foot in the door or the precinct.
I know many who have made such a "name" and later become a student or a student. Help came back.
However, I also wonder why you get 4 cancellations… if both parents are employed, you always know one who knows one who offers an internship.