Is riding bitless different than riding with a bridle?
I have a test ride for a Rb the day after tomorrow. The horse will be ridden bitlessly, which I've never done before (the owner said it's no problem, so she knows). Now I'd like to know if the pure aids are the same? And is there anything I need to be careful about? Judging by the pictures, the horse has a wheel of fortune/LG bridle.
I don't want to look like a complete novice just because I always ride with a bridle. Hence the question online 🙂
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First of all, I don't care what a complete beginner is like when I'm confronted with something I don't know yet. I'd rather just say that you don't have any experience with this part than somehow trying to talk wisely. “Because you have heard or read.”…
There are various biteless trimmings, and a wheel of luck is very similar in handling to a normal trens bit. Only for the horse is it different, because instead of loading and tongue it presses on jaws, nose and neck.
Subsequent: a difference that may be great arises from whether you have learned to maintain a uniform attachment. Because one-sided pulling leads to tilting of the body. In the case of a bridle, you only block the relevant hind leg with this error, but with a slanted tum the whole horse blocks because it can't start with it.
Thanks for the answer. The owner also knows that I've never been ridden with this:) Just didn't want to show up completely unprepared there. Isn't so mine I always want to be prepared
Better without special “preparation” than insecure or even falsely informed by many opinions. You're doing it all well
Thanks for the 💫 star! And then tell us how it was 🤓
If the owner knows that you have no experience so far, she will certainly take the time to explain the way of action and help. If there's something wrong with you, or you're not sure about riding, just trust and ask.
This makes absolutely no bad impression, but proves, on the contrary, that you are thinking and willing to learn.
There is nothing worse than RBs that do not dare to question the owners and then start experimenting wildly on their own, so the PB shows quietly that you are trustworthy and open to any problems/unclearness.
You're a complete beginner!
You should be aware of that. It's not bad if you say that.
No biteless is in no way better to ride with bites. It can be a more suitable form for one or the other rider and or horse, but it is often not under professional conditions.
Horses with biteless trimmings are often simply ridden "other"! You have to learn this.
After my experience, many ride their horse without bite, unfortunately autodidactically. So not often dog bad.
Thus even good riders with sufficient experience with these horses like the ox stand in front of the mountain, as the good riding style does not work. You have to prepare these horses again or just throw the right riding on board. I recommend correcting the horse.
A lot of text of short content, let it show you that it is supposed to go ahead and take qualified lessons in dealing with this paralysis.
So I'm a Western rider, it's something else, but I'll answer.
I often ride with a bit with Shanks (western curb), both in riding hours and horseback riding. Previous normal water bridle. However, in the hall I was already ridden with Bosal (this is really different) and with Sidepull. I ride my share of riding, and so the help isn't, but I don't usually work with reins.
So as long as you usually work enough with the legs and the seat, it shouldn't be a problem, I think.
Do you have a picture of it?
I'm sorry, I went looking. Hackamore is often used as an epitome of biteless foaming. I ride some side pull.
No, I hardly photographed in the stable. And now I have a young dog and I can't go.
Okay, thank you again, what learned 🙂
The Bosal is also a few hundred years older and is considered a real (Califorian) hackamore. This is the "normal" hackamore.
The mechanical hackamore, which we know so mainly, is just a mechanical hackamore. At that point, terms are important.
There is also the "Natural Hackamore", ultimately a knotted neck, the reins down like a bosal.
(mechanical)Hackamore is roughly the epitome for all biteless trimmings with lever effect. That's why my stupid demand was too – because a Hackamore always has Shanks, that's not different.
A bosal looks quite different than a “normal” hackamore. I find it very confusing and illogical.
But well, I've never been so much involved in terms of terms, never was necessary.
A Bosal is also a Hackamore. A mechanical hackamore is also usually titled as Hackamore, but remains the mechanical one.
Otherwise there are much more bruises, see the link from my answer.
When I put in Hackamore, the Bosal also comes, so I was a little confused.
Thank you. Never heard as a preamble in all these years with horses. But it was possible to clarify
Depends on the horse on how it was ridden.
Most then react more to posture and legs. I would say, just let you surprise, ask her – this shows of learning and learning skills.
Wish you a lot of fun
Thank you very much. I was just wondering if I was so stupid instead of
Naaa even nedðŸTM‚ she will surely know that it is a conversion. The horse reacts to other stimuli then more sensitive, will see as soon as you sit up 😁
I don't have to. I rode the first time with a bliss in a ride where the owner didn't know me at all and anyone who makes credible to be able to keep in the saddle would have taken along. Such a horse does not respond to any stimulus. I was not particularly comfortable up there because I had the feeling that I did not find a “good brake” in an emergency situation…(was fortunately not necessary 😉)
What to read, I would like to recommend Romy Wirtz: https://www.romy-wirtz.de/gebissloses-reiten/
Otherwise: Yes, it's a little different – but honestly, let's show you better on site before you get a knot in your head, because it may be completely different. The foaming itself also plays a role: With the leverage effect, nothing should be ridden on attachment, but a Lindel or the like can do so.
An LG can be locked without a lever. But do the least.
If you're really ridden, say weight and legs, there's no difference.
But for bad riders who ride above all via reins, it is a big difference.
See it as a chance to improve your riding style.
The biteless ride is much more pleasant for the horse. It's a bit of exercise, because you work more with help and weight shift. But you'll get a little exercise. Let this be explained by the owner of the horse.
Addendum: Advertiser is only if the rider also knows what he does. Hackamore, Bosal, etc. can even easily break the nose of a horse. And also the other biteless foams can become quite really unpleasant to painful. They are therefore no more pleasant.
I'd rather buckle a water trench on a beginner than a hackamore.
Some horses (some, among others, for example) do not accept biteless trimmings at all, because they cannot bear any pressure and friction on their nose (and they necessarily have)
A Hackamore is a very sharp tool and does not belong to the hands of a beginner. Beginners should choose a biteless body without leverage. The side pull is gentle and functional and suitable for beginners. Of course, the horse must react very well to leg aids, i.e. leg obedience and have a good lateral bending.
Thank you, a very important comment. Unfortunately, it is still much too often thought that biteless would automatically be softer 🤦🏼 ♀️
It's not really more pleasant. That's what comes to the rider's hand. If the rider has a hard hand, biteless riding is sometimes even more painful for the horse, especially at Hakamore and LG bridles. He can break the nose with too much pressure by using such foams.
In addition, there are other disadvantages in horse riding which are neither pleasant for horse nor rider:
-No one-sided help is possible, as the body slips around on the nose and transmits the aids only in a sloping manner, perhaps even lets the horse slip to the eye.
-Horse is not stimulated to chewing, thus has a rigid jaw, the tongue leg does not move, the musculature hangs thereon, which affects itself to the pelvis. By chewing horses relax, which has a positive effect on the body.
1) it depends on how the wheel is set. Depending on where you hook the rein, you hardly have more influence than with a stable neck. In that case, not hard. A hackamore can also be buckled so that the lever action goes against zero.
2) I understand the question that FS is not a beginner, but only has no experience with bleeding.
3) I hope the owner will judge the right 🙂
This is absolutely not suitable for a very sharp back and for beginners.
The question is the speech of a wheel of fortune. This is similar to a hackamore with very short suits and by no means softer than a water bridle.