If I fly with Flugladen.de, is my ID sufficient (how do I enter my name)?
Hello,
I booked flights yesterday through Flugladen.de. When booking, I was told to enter the name as it appears in the machine-readable part of my passport, eg, Johanna Cornelia Laura becomes Johanna.
Since I don't have a passport, only an ID card, I still gave both of my first names. So, basically, Johanna Cornelia (John Doe). Because I figured if they saw my ID, it would have to be written exactly like that. And if necessary, it could simply be omitted. Now, however, the name appears on the tickets as JOHANNACORNELIA MUSTERMANN.
My questions:
Do I have to have a passport to fly with Flugladen.de?
Do I have to change the name again and only use the first name? Or is that not a problem?
Thank you very much for your experience! Since I've already bought the tickets, it doesn't help much if you just advise me against flying with Flugladen.de. It's already too late, and I just have to hope everything works out! 🙂
Best regards!
It is normal that the names are written together for e-tickets and machine readability.
2.6.1 General
2.6.1.1 Whenever possible, use given names (first and middle), initials and/or title to supplement a family name to ensure accuracy and differentiated identification, and for the usage of the same name on the ticket as in the PNR. Place the given names (first and middle), initials and/or title, after the family name and separate reference to each individual passenger by a single oblique, eg indicate Jean Duval as 1DUVAL/JEAN, Mr. Edward Charles Jones as 1JONES/EDWARDCHARLESMR , Miss Duvalier as 1DUVALIER/MISS, E. Ford, B. Ford and C. Ford as 3FORD/E/B/C, Mrs. B. Khoury as 1KHOURY/BMRS, and Ms. Anne Judith Blythe as 1BLYTHE/ANNEJUDITHMS .
https://servicehub.amadeus.com/c/portal/view-solution/3893134/guidelines-on-passenger-name-record-pnr-data
If your name is official:
JOHANNACORNELIA MUSTERMANN
and your identity card and passport are issued, then everything is right.
Flugladen.de is just a platform. They can't make regulations anyway.
The contract comes between you and the airline and how tickets must be labeled, the airlines and this is derived from official regulations.
So it's no problem that there's no space between the first name and the second first name? Maybe it's a totally stupid question, but I'm flying myself for the first time and I've only heard how strict this is with the travel documents!
No, that's not a problem.
Of course, it also depends on where you fly. But in the EU everything is fine.
With Flugladen.de you can't fly, this is no airline, just one booking page.
Fly with the airline that you bought tickets from.
To the actual question: If you need a passport, it comes from the country you travel, it has nothing to do with the airline.
If you fly within the EU, this is definitely not a problem. Schengen flights from Germany can in theory even be booked on the name Micky Maus, as in online checkin no one controls the ID.
But even if you're going to show the airline the ID at checkin at the airport, it won't matter that there's no space.
Thank you. I was only confused because they didn't give the ID on flugladen.de as an option but went out of the passport. But your answer calms me!
Unfortunately, the answer is completely wrong. You should ignore them.
It doesn't matter what you said. You flee with the airline, airline only broke the ticket, that's an online travel agency.
Of course, absolutely wrong.
It's not. If you check in online and flee from DE Intra-Schengen, no Sau controls your ID, only exception is the Ryanair group.
I'll give it up.
So in DE. And it sounded different here:
So no source, I thought 😉
My testimony was from Germany within Schengen .
In other countries, the gate of the ID is required.
Your statement was “EU/Schengen”, both in Schengen, Milan in the EU.
But even a few years ago in MUC was controlled. It will also be fun if you have to leave luggage. Will not go with such a fake name and the promotion is denied.
So no source, I thought 😉
And Zurich and Milan have been in Germany since when?
Funny, at KLM from Zurich to Amsterdam I was controlled 1 month ago. In Milan you will also be asked for ID + boarding card at each airline.
Your statement is just wrong. This is fact. You just can't have it wrong. And yet it “yoke” someone. When you book names on fantasy, that is absolutely controlled. And yet, sampling takes place again and again.
Please show a single sound source that matches your statement ! Otherwise you have to admit that you are spreading absolute must.
(a) Except for Ryanair.
b) Don't itch if nobody controls it.
I can de facto book and fly in Germany on Mickey Mouse.
(a) Because checks are still taking place at points. Depending on the airline, the gate is adjusted again. If data is also strange or mistakes, you have to settle this again for the gate (and this is when you book on “Micky Mouse” usually the case).
(b) The FIG. You're violating the terms, so your booking is invalid! Can go to the ad for a fraudulent deception because you knowingly sabotaged the contract. A final contract has not arrived!
Why? And don't come back with ABB from an airline. They don't change that because nobody controls it.
When I check in online, where is my ID checked?
As I said, you are absolutely wrong.
As I said, there is no control.
Of course. So unless you don't want to fly.
So what? It doesn't change anything.
It is.
Excerpt from Lufthansa ABB:
ANNEX We may refuse your transport if we have informed you in writing, as part of our discretion prior to booking, that we will no longer transport you to our flights from the time of written notification … We may also refuse your transport if:
7.1.8. submit a ticket that you have acquired or received by illegal means or in violation of the Miles-and-More Terms of Participation or which has been reported as lost or stolen, forged or if You cannot demonstrate your identity with the person registered as a passenger in the ticket”
https://www.lufthansa.com/ch/en/geschaeftostat-1#3
Each airline has similar requirements. Since they must also forward the correct identities to the authorities. There are also no fly lists. You can and must therefore definitely not specify any false identity! There are also persons and customs controls within Schengen. Just by chance.