If I'm caught driving without a license, do I just have to take an advanced training course?
Hello community. I received an order to attend an advanced training seminar stating that I have three months to complete it. If I don't comply, my driving license will be revoked. I missed the deadline, and I received a letter stating that my driving license had been revoked and that I should hand it in to the public order office. So I handed in my driving license to the public order office, and they told me that I only had to complete my advanced training seminar and present it, and then I would get my driving license back immediately. It's no problem, so there's no driving ban, fine, or anything like that, so perfect.
But the problem is, I thought, 'Whatever, I'll drive without a license for another week and then sign up for the advanced driving course at the driving school.' Here's the thing: I was stopped by the police and caught driving without a license.
I know so far that the punishment will be a very high fine (four-figure sum) or a prison sentence of up to 12 months, but because I am a first-time offender it is more likely to be a fine and all of this will apparently go to court.
My question is, will I still get my driver's license back immediately if I simply complete my advanced training course and show it to the regulatory authority, or will I now be banned or something similar, or do I have to wait for the court to decide? Because normally, the driver's license authority has nothing to do with this, right?
I hope that I only have to show my advanced training course and then I can drive again straight away.
Thanks for any helpful answer 🙂
One is the penalty: fine with x daily rates, blocking period for re-application of the driving licence. If you are usually negotiated by a criminal order, there is a main trial only if you object.
The second is the administrative process. The driving permit authority will require a medical-psychological opinion (MPU) if you reapply the driving permit after the blocking period.
Your driving licence will be shredded, the next months on foot / bike / Öffis and also high costs for punishment and Mpu
Go to Verkehrsportal.de there are competent tips
So thanks for your help, it’s 100% sure I have to do a MPU? And is there a drug test? I mean I had nix to do drugs
I would also use the probability at about 100%. However, you must continue the building seminar.
The MPU is almost 100% safe. There will be a criminal question: if it is to be expected that Mr. xy will also be violating criminal law regulations in the future in road transport….Drugs and alcohol do not play a role in this, and no test will be made in this respect. Can you really get the page again http://www.transportportal.de (and recommend the forum for MPU). You’re asking for drugs, do you have another “leach in the cellar”?
No.
You’ll get a license lock. This means that you don’t have a chance to get a driving license back X months/ X years.
Then you can get it back. Of course after the construction seminar.
Thank you and can it be that a MPU is arranged?.
The probability is extremely high yes
No. You were deprived of your driving license, not just your driving license. You need to re-apply the FE, and there is also an examination of whether there are any doubts about your driving suitability, for example due to ongoing criminal proceedings.
This is not the order office, but the court.
Then your vehicle can now be retracted and scraped. §21 StVG:
The same applies if you are driving without FE again within three years of the last conviction for driving without a driving licence.
Redistribution of your withdrawn driving licence is the task of the driving licence authority. This will receive the notification that a criminal proceedings are against you and therefore will not process your application until it is completed. If the judgment is present, it shall be examined whether an MPU is required. If you continue to run a motor vehicle despite the deprivation of FE, you will not be able to participate in the road traffic, the MPU should be as good as safe.
The fine is one ( + the 2 further points on your account) – but can also be up to 6 further months driving ban or withdrawing the driving permit.
You didn’t make this negligent, but with your intention, so prestige!
So only build seminar and show up and get back appearance you can completely forget about the crime!
He will certainly be deprived of the driving licence. If he re-applications them after the end of the blocking period and returns to positive MPU, he starts again at 0 points. Btw, driving ban is only up to a maximum of 3 months, everything about it is always withdrawal of the driving licence with subsequent re-application
small correction: he has already been removed
You can expect 100% of this. The punishment will come when the matter is in court.
She has a lot to do with it. It will be informed of the incident.
You’ll get a criminal procedure for driving without a driving permit. In this procedure, a judge decides on the penalty. This can begin with a fine and go to prison.
Then it comes on Top that you get a blocking period of several years until you can even apply for a new driving licence. In the context of the new application, you may then join all the harassments of the leader’s office. Be it MPU etc.
Have fun and I hope you have a thick wallet, all this is very expensive
Yes, then you have the lead certificate directly
You probably have to do a MPU. The building seminar is the last instance before.
Oh ok Shame I thought it was all the same that I had to go to court and pay about €1200 to €1700 fine, which is not a problem with the driver’s license, and I still only have to complete and show my construction seminar. Could you tell me where to get information about my driving licence? So I don’t know what’s still coming up so far just came a letter by standing you being accused of driving without a driving permit from the police and this is over 2 months ago
Why do you want to know about your driver’s license? You have been deprived of the driving licence, this is a completely different number than a driving ban or “travel without a driver’s license” (because forgot) So you drove without a driving permit, this is a criminal offence and not just a misfortune as you call it. With the letter from the police, it was certain that you could comment on the matter or even have been charged (but you don’t have to) The process is now at the (overloaded) prosecutor’s office, the fact is clear, at some point a criminal order comes that you can accept or not if it is not in court. The building seminar no longer interests anyone. It shows us, however, that you must have already violated traffic regulations, otherwise it would not have been arranged. At the MPU in many months, you will have to prove whether you are even characteristically suitable for taking part in road traffic. I really don’t mean it all badly, but you’ve been conscious of the current situation (and apologise: stupid!!).
Most of the time, the driver’s office tells you when you ask. You get the penalty or something, but the place can also say that you are not suitable for driving. This has nothing to do with the court.
I don’t understand one thing now: driving without a driver’s license means that you have it, but only have it at home, this is from my point of view only a minor offence or do you mean driving without a valid driving permit? (This would be a crime)
Yes, so I had to leave my driver’s license because I was deprived of my driving permit because I had not completed my building seminar. I’ve been told that I’ll get my driver’s license right after I complete my building seminar. The problem is I’m still under control and was stopped by the police and caught driving without a driving permit after a week. Do you think I have to get back for my driver’s license, but only do my building seminar and show it to the office and get it back directly? Or do I now have a lock or similar
You don’t get anything right back, on the contrary, the mail will be annoying and expensive that will find the next time of your mailbox. Set up a lock, possibly MPU, points and a high fine.
my son has got a “Gutschein” from court for a 3 month “Hotel” stay with full board, I hope you know what I mean now
small supplement: Since the driving permit was withdrawn, he starts again with 0 points when he is retired. But, as you said, it will be a long and expensive way to renew. The MPU is almost certain, the generality must be protected from people who are not characteristically suitable for driving a car. I still don’t think he knows he committed a crime
I also know a few cases where due to the intention even right went fast with a stay in a JVA.
Was he prejudged or unprisoned he got three months? Because normally without imprisonment it is extremely rare that you get a prison sentence