Horse scared, my fault?
I was just out for a walk when a horse and rider (around 16-20 years old) came towards me. When I saw the two of them, which was about 30-50m away from us as they were coming around a bend, I called my dogs a bit louder because they were further away in the woods. As I always do when horses come to put the two of them down, because safety comes first. Apparently the horse was startled by my shout or something, because when I called my dogs, it opened its eyes wide and reared up. I had just tied the dogs to a tree and went over to her to ask if everything was okay, and then she snapped at me that I had almost killed her and that I should put my "curds" on a riding trail (which isn't one by the way, you can ride at a walk in the woods here and at a trot on some paths, but it's not a special riding trail). I replied that there was no leash requirement in the forest and that my dogs were therefore allowed to run free, and I asked her what her problem with my dogs was, because the two of them didn't even come near the horse and didn't scratch or anything. She then said that I wouldn't have needed to call the dogs so loudly if they had been on a leash. Then I said that she should be glad that I had shown consideration for her and her horse (unfortunately, many dog owners here don't do this) and asked why anyone would go riding with such a skittish horse, and alone to boot. She just replied, "You should look after your dogs and not judge others," and left.
I untied my dogs and went the other direction with them.
But honestly, what can I do about it? Was it my fault? Or should she have simply assessed her horse better?
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depending on the country, you may be completely off.
both are right and both are wrong.
no one was ready to deviate from his stallion. no communication takes place.
I’ve been accused, I’d destroy all the way through riding with my welsh-b pony. to get from the road over the bridge to the feldmark I actually had to use about 100m this hollow way. However, I did not accept any of the accusations – because my pony never left tire traces as enduro motorcycles do.
I know both sides. the rider and the dog holder.
seriously? a dog has to come here when you call him – if you have to scream, what is not in order.
you were both overwhelmed with the situarion – and I have not heard the version of the rider yet.
I called her. “Here” and they stood beside me. I remained calm in contrast to the rider. Where there is no obligation to lay and where, when I got my first female, I asked the church.
I stayed calm too, and I just regained something in her pitiful way. Wasn’t that my dogs were totally far away and hidden
another third time – and if it must also be a fourth and a fifth time.
dogs that are just 20 meters far away are called with normal voice.
and if they were not far away, there was no reason to be loud.
probably you’ve still been distracted with the leash and ruined with the poor to support your call.
the more you come, the more I come to the view that you have to justify yourself…
do you know why I ask so few?
because I don’t have to justify myself, but considering a conflict situation, what I can do better next time.
you will do it the next time – because you feel right.
Now, when you read your comments, it seems to me that if your question is really not a question. You’re convinced that you’ve done everything right, and don’t look for answers here, but for confirmation?
I wish you a nice evening.
No, I don’t. Personally, I don’t see what I’m supposed to do wrong, and I’m looking for reasonable arguments that show me if I did something wrong.
I’m not really excited when people judge me without having a reasonable reason for it
It’s not your fault.
I’m a rider myself and I’m always very happy when people get their dogs and line up.
It’s happened to me several times that some dog came running and bumped around my horses.
My knowledge of God is thanks to dogs but is not the case with all. Gives dogs to bite quickly.
Going to the ground alone with a horse that is so frightened because of a reputation is also quite questionable.
I think you acted right. Of course, it is not a nice situation for the rider, but if you ride on unexpressive riding trails with a horse that is terrified with such a thing, you must be prepared as a rider.
Guilt is relative. You couldn’t know how the horse reacts to your reputation. If it was really the call. Also, if the dogs or your emergence from the curve, or all together, it’s not gonna be cleared.
In any case, animals, straight horses, must always be expected to frighten or not react as expected.
The rider is certainly also mega frightened and has so adored you. Ich wouldn’t overvalue this now in your place.
Anyway, thank you very much for being a dog owner who uses his brain and takes into consideration. Also gives others who simply let their dogs run and let them go, no matter who the way comes. As riders, cyclists, pedestrians and themselves dog owners already experienced really harsh situations, among other things it is not always possible to count on the insight of the “causers”. On the contrary.
Bad accident a couple of years ago with us in the place when a young Huskie, alone on the road with a child who had the natural 0, chased a 13 year with her Haflinger, who fell down and hurt badly. Bad accident of my girlfriend a few years ago when her young horse was properly attacked by a dog – she fell down and the horse climbed her to the arm – that was then mud… The owner of the dog was to find sitting on the other side of the forest in the beer garden. Did he know that his dog had gone to pen, but thought it was, he’s coming back… Well, the stories are a few.
But, of course, there are also doofe riders, cyclists, anything else, in whose behavior you just have to grasp the brain.
And the animals themselves can’t do anything for incompetent, stupid or reckless behavior of their holders.
Right. Finally, I expect to take care of my dogs, which is why I also consider others. I see this as a matter of course.
But some here seem to think it’s ruthless to leave his dog from the leash at all… in all the training we make out, it wouldn’t be possible for me to give it all through, and to be honest, I don’t want to… and I at least respect my fellow human beings.
My dog isn’t all-round fishing u. I wouldn’t ask for that from other dog owners – if you just let them run where it is allowed or the conditions allow the dog to listen directly to the dog if necessary.
Hello,
I think you’re not guilty. ‘Cause imagine you’d just go on and your dogs would have attacked the horse. That would be much worse.
Honestly, she’s supposed to be glad you got your dogs. For even as a rider you have to take into account other persons. I’ve been ridden for 10 years and know the feeling of a horse going through. What do you think I’d throw up against the gang? Okay, here I exaggerate something… was just 1 times. You’ve been shocked at the first moment, which is why I can understand them. It’s not a reason to talk to someone like that! It could also be that the horse was scared of something else.
Thank you for your consideration.
Love
The dogs are attack animals, the horses are fleeing animals, when the horse whose eyes are designed to perceive movements on the ground, an animal “below” perceives it mostly.
Your loud reputation also came unexpected, because as a fleeing animal the horse also does not “speak” to talk, which use the mute body language.
So dog in the “Unterholz” (movement), your call (unexpected/ loud), maybe rather nervous horse = drama.
You’re not guilty in law, depending on the law. I’m wondering, however, no matter where and why the dogs have to walk freely in the forest.
As a rider I am glad to meet such situations, so I can also practice them with the horse, because only through exercise you get to learn patterns and horses with patterns.
My horse, by the way, doesn’t even scare at a banging car door or bursting balloons. Do you have to cut and the horse is straight with his 3 brain cells where different… he explodes:D
Should I call my dogs to me for a lifetime? You hear, and I take into consideration others, so. No dog wants to run on a leash for his life
Well, they still have nix to look in the underwood. Point.
Stay on the paths they can run free until the doctor comes as long as you can call them.
that varies according to country.
And then you don’t have to scream excessively loud. Dogs have a good hearing. In confusing places you should always have dogs close.
By the way, I actually also know people who let their dogs run freely on their own fenced plot. They are always fishing out, which obviously does not make them unhappy.
Oh, I’d just “hook” that.
She was scared because her horse reacted and she didn’t control it.
Sure – Horses frighten quickly – everyone who has to do with horses knows that. But every rider must also expect unforeseen situations. And a land-safe horse doesn’t just rise because someone calls “here”…
You didn’t do anything wrong – you called your dogs – they came right away. That the horse has frightened is stupid but – well – that was no intention of you and you could not know that.
Actually, a “I’m sorry” would have been appropriate from both sides. You could have been afraid of a rising and uncontrolled horse.
That a horse rises when someone calls a little louder is not normal. But it is also not normal that dogs run around in the forest, which they must not. If you had taken care of your dogs not leaving the way, you would have to call non-socialist sounds.
So somehow, each of you has a bit right. But I think the main problem is a certain aggression from both sides.
In such cases, a wise old lady always used to say: “Thank you to someone who says nothing!” 😉
My dogs were just 20 meters behind me and sniffed on the way. As soon as I called “here” in medium volume, they stood right next to me.
they have not sniffed away.
They can be retrieved with a normal voice at the back of 20 meters.
And you know what?
What is “normal” voice for you.
It comes to the situation… a normal walking horse doesn’t freak out when someone shouts loud (you won’t be jogging for hours?). But if dogs (for horse/reiter) break out of the underwood unreasonably, this can trigger panic.
Of course, a dog holder has to keep his animals “on a man” when others approach.
And no linen obligation does not mean that the Wuffis can energize everywhere beyond the paths (!), be glad that no hunter/förster caught you.
There are now many possibilities why this is so escalated (young horse, unsafe rider or your appearance wasn’t as “normal” as you think), but … tap under “Shit happens” … and consider how the situation would have been in small children or the like….
Were not in the underwood, have sniffed 20 meters HINTER MIR at the edge of the way. And once someone has come (in the case the horse) I always call my dogs, once a clear “here” and the two are next to me
Well, then everything should be in the green area… and no horse should be panicked in front of a “shocky commanding voice”.
When all this has been done so, I think that horse/rider was extremely unsure and the rider was simply overwhelmed with the situation and became pampig in the excitement.
at 20 meters a dog must be retrieved in normal voice. there is no reason to be louder.
you just want us to give you all right.
No one is right, not as long as you have not heard the version of the rider.
they also call such questions tampering attempt. for self-confirmation. not fine.
Well, then we just applaud the same frightening horse/reiter that went out of the row.
The same situation is often found in road traffic, for example… then you’re crumbling behind the windshield “Du A…”
No, I don’t. I’m just talking about the situation.
I have now, when something frightened when the horse suddenly came around the corner. And at this distance I always speak normal with my dog, but sharper. Desto hectic I run the command, the faster the two are with me.
Hello Anonymous,
You can’t talk about guilt here, software can always happen with a living being. But dogs have good ears and would have heard you even if you are quieter. She was probably shocked, and therefore reacted so, SUPPLIES she has a somewhat difficult character.You wouldn’t have them almost killed!And even if, don’t choose yours but EHER’s fault, you just wanted to be good, and whoever feels at rine NORMALEN is almost dead, please don’t go into the grounds.
LG Milla
Not software, so what
I don’t think it’s your fault. She has to expect loud sounds in the woods, for example, children who play or just dog gang.
She probably just scared herself and she was embarrassed that she didn’t have her horse under control.
In any case, she shouldn’t have made you so rude as you acted responsibly. I find anyone who is on the move with his animal in the public should be able to hang this. You had your dogs under control, she obviously didn’t have her horse.
As you have to control your dogs, what you have,
must have her horse under control.
If it’s just a call, it’s definitely NOT your problem.
It could also hup a car or make another loud noise.
So the whole PP was personal bad luck.
I wouldn’t mind you.
The rider is still young and probably got half in his pants. And under stress, you react stupidly or completely.
I was once hit by a bike and my reaction was to hit the guy until he got scared 🙈 That was the adrenaline, I never yell at anyone else.
You didn’t blame, you just ran.