I used to get my bottom spanked quite often, and usually rightly so. I didn't always see it as fair at the time, but looking back, it was definitely helpful for me. Yes, many years ago, I occasionally put my nephew over my knee!
So, you experienced violence against your own body and were manipulated by your caregivers, who were supposed to protect you, into perceiving it as justified. And later, you reproduced exactly that violence against an innocent child.
And you seriously think that was "helpful"? With what exactly?
As a child, it helped me learn my limits. It also improved my discipline at school. There are certainly some children who can be reached by talking. It didn't do much good with me, and I only heard when the threatened spanking was announced. Then, of course, I promised the moon, while my father dragged me by the wrist to the cutlery drawer to get the wooden spoon. Unfortunately, it was too late, and I had to learn a painful lesson. That lasted for a while.
Hello, I was born in 1982 and my grandparents and my parents regularly spanked me on my bare bottom, either with a stick or a belt or a wooden spoon. I regularly got a beating when I did something really stupid. My father pulled my trousers down or I had to bend over and then he spanked me pretty hard on my bare bottom with a stick. One day my grandparents and my parents spanked me openly on the back of my neck at the same time.
Hello, no, I'm not teaching my little boy, ten years old. I'm a single parent, what my mother taught me. She used to beat my bare bottom with a carpet beater and a wooden spoon, and then she would sometimes really whip my bare bottom with a leather belt just because the smallest thing didn't suit her. The fear of that is a thousand times worse, what you do to your body. She even beat me at sports and swimming lessons because with the leather belt you can definitely see the bruises on my hips and then she never sent me to school, even when there was swimming lesson the next day. Oh and the teachers never noticed, of course not, unfortunately. Hitting children is a sign of weakness and helplessness, and when the adults who call themselves parents can only defend themselves with hits because they don't know what to do anymore, it's damn sad. Unfortunately 48% of the German variant and 68% of housemates still use 'hitting' as a way to raise children properly. I've run out of words for that!!
I got a spanking, but I'd also done something really bad, really bad. Dad said there was no other way this time, and that he didn't like hitting me and hoped it would never be necessary again, but that he couldn't let what I'd done go unpunished.
I'm actually against punishing children, but of course it depends on what you've done wrong. But your dad at least doesn't seem to be a fan of spanking either, or do you think he just said it to show he's sorry?
I know from my own experience how a child feels about this. It's even worse when, apart from an explanation, the only response is a beating. And if it was unjustified, they just said "I'm sorry," and that was it. But if you ever apologized, it was ignored. With the words, "It's not that simple!"
That was and is absolutely the wrong way.
Unfortunately, in my time, the youth welfare offices were also unable to distinguish between right and wrong, as corruption and money seemed to be more important than justice.
I was born in 1986, back then it was still common practice, a few of my mum's wooden spoons broke on my bottom until dad bought the Steggerla (stick or stick), which then always stayed in the corner within easy reach.
Mom's worst sentence: "Just wait until Dad comes home and finds out, then there'll be something with Steggerla again!"
Well, when I was little, around 5-6 (now 15), I actually got that too, but only once…
I find this totally disgusting of my parents and have developed a bit of a trauma…
Now I've found a "teacher" who gives me everything I need, but in return I have to take a beating. That doesn't bother me at all; in fact, I like it ^^
Since I grew up in the 1970s – and it was considered a completely normal method of parenting at that time – I had to go through this bitter experience a few times myself!
But I'm quite certain that this procedure didn't help me personally! And since it's simply painful and humiliating for a child to be hit by their parentsโand there's no demonstrably any learning effect from itโI spared my own children such misconduct from the very beginning!
However, humans have not always been able to wipe out entire species of animals.
According to this definition of "not an animal," all living beings should no longer be animals as soon as they are able to wipe out other animal species, or am I wrong?
Nevertheless, we are still animals that can completely wipe out others, that still doesn't make us a higher form of life, it just puts us at the very top of the food chain, but a single human being can't do anything against a predator or generally a wild animal of a similar size, in which case the individual human being would be right at the bottom of the food chain again.
Humans are animals. I don't understand how anyone could believe otherwise. Humans are mammals. We have sensory organs just like any other animal. We reproduce like animals. We are animals.
They are raised to be mindless followers of orders, unable to perceive their own and needs, or they become as aggressive as they themselves had to experience at the hands of their parents.
That's complete nonsense. I'm neither a submissive follower of orders nor aggressive. And neither are my brothers and friends. Here in the Czech Republic, where I live, a good beating is still part of the upbringing in many families. We learn respect, self-discipline, and obedience, but not blind obedience. Our parents aren't monsters; they only want the best for us, just as generations of parents in Germany did in the last century. And you don't want to tell me that that generation is less critical or more aggressive than today's youth, who can only be handled with kid gloves, if at all, and who often don't even bother to question anything but are always loud-mouthed about everything. So who are the submissive followers of orders? Well, definitely not us…
In the Czech Republic, too, the statistics and their scientific evaluation are clear in this regard. Furthermore, you don't know the non-violent alternative, which would be a prerequisite for being able to judge what it does to you, or whether it does anything to you.
So it's just the same old talk that trivializes violence (a real man needs it, otherwise he becomes effeminate, maybe even becomes a girl: Do girls become men if you hit them properly?)…
I used to get my bottom spanked quite often, and usually rightly so. I didn't always see it as fair at the time, but looking back, it was definitely helpful for me. Yes, many years ago, I occasionally put my nephew over my knee!
So, you experienced violence against your own body and were manipulated by your caregivers, who were supposed to protect you, into perceiving it as justified. And later, you reproduced exactly that violence against an innocent child.
And you seriously think that was "helpful"? With what exactly?
About to become a child bully yourself?
As a child, it helped me learn my limits. It also improved my discipline at school. There are certainly some children who can be reached by talking. It didn't do much good with me, and I only heard when the threatened spanking was announced. Then, of course, I promised the moon, while my father dragged me by the wrist to the cutlery drawer to get the wooden spoon. Unfortunately, it was too late, and I had to learn a painful lesson. That lasted for a while.
In my case, my mom dragged me into the kitchen and took the wooden spoon
Hello, I was born in 1982 and my grandparents and my parents regularly spanked me on my bare bottom, either with a stick or a belt or a wooden spoon. I regularly got a beating when I did something really stupid. My father pulled my trousers down or I had to bend over and then he spanked me pretty hard on my bare bottom with a stick. One day my grandparents and my parents spanked me openly on the back of my neck at the same time.
Hello, no, I'm not teaching my little boy, ten years old. I'm a single parent, what my mother taught me. She used to beat my bare bottom with a carpet beater and a wooden spoon, and then she would sometimes really whip my bare bottom with a leather belt just because the smallest thing didn't suit her. The fear of that is a thousand times worse, what you do to your body. She even beat me at sports and swimming lessons because with the leather belt you can definitely see the bruises on my hips and then she never sent me to school, even when there was swimming lesson the next day. Oh and the teachers never noticed, of course not, unfortunately. Hitting children is a sign of weakness and helplessness, and when the adults who call themselves parents can only defend themselves with hits because they don't know what to do anymore, it's damn sad. Unfortunately 48% of the German variant and 68% of housemates still use 'hitting' as a way to raise children properly. I've run out of words for that!!
I got a spanking, but I'd also done something really bad, really bad. Dad said there was no other way this time, and that he didn't like hitting me and hoped it would never be necessary again, but that he couldn't let what I'd done go unpunished.
I'm actually against punishing children, but of course it depends on what you've done wrong. But your dad at least doesn't seem to be a fan of spanking either, or do you think he just said it to show he's sorry?
Did you really call that a butt slap?
I don't think it's doing any good, or has done any good. I was punished myself, but I don't plan to do it to anyone else.
I know from my own experience how a child feels about this. It's even worse when, apart from an explanation, the only response is a beating. And if it was unjustified, they just said "I'm sorry," and that was it. But if you ever apologized, it was ignored. With the words, "It's not that simple!"
That was and is absolutely the wrong way.
Unfortunately, in my time, the youth welfare offices were also unable to distinguish between right and wrong, as corruption and money seemed to be more important than justice.
I was born in 1986, back then it was still common practice, a few of my mum's wooden spoons broke on my bottom until dad bought the Steggerla (stick or stick), which then always stayed in the corner within easy reach.
Mom's worst sentence: "Just wait until Dad comes home and finds out, then there'll be something with Steggerla again!"
I also know wooden spoons and carpet beaters, at that time it was very bad for me, but she still loved me, which was just too much for me
Well, when I was little, around 5-6 (now 15), I actually got that too, but only once…
I find this totally disgusting of my parents and have developed a bit of a trauma…
Now I've found a "teacher" who gives me everything I need, but in return I have to take a beating. That doesn't bother me at all; in fact, I like it ^^
I won't do it, and it wasn't used on me either. I'm very grateful for that. My parents rarely used punishment.
Since I grew up in the 1970s – and it was considered a completely normal method of parenting at that time – I had to go through this bitter experience a few times myself!
But I'm quite certain that this procedure didn't help me personally! And since it's simply painful and humiliating for a child to be hit by their parentsโand there's no demonstrably any learning effect from itโI spared my own children such misconduct from the very beginning!
It brings pain and humiliation to the child, nothing else.
No, I haven't and I won't.
No.
It doesn't bring anything but it was done anyway
Learning through pain is very successful in the animal kingdom. However, we are not animals and should therefore resort to other methods.
This is debatable, but humans are animals too ๐
Can animals cook?
We are Homo sapiens not animals
However, humans have not always been able to wipe out entire species of animals.
According to this definition of "not an animal," all living beings should no longer be animals as soon as they are able to wipe out other animal species, or am I wrong?
Nevertheless, we are still animals that can completely wipe out others, that still doesn't make us a higher form of life, it just puts us at the very top of the food chain, but a single human being can't do anything against a predator or generally a wild animal of a similar size, in which case the individual human being would be right at the bottom of the food chain again.
We are, too. That's how it's written. We have been given a responsibility for animals. Otherwise, we wouldn't be able to eradicate entire breeds.
Typical superiority thinking as I notice
Not every animal, or not every species of animal, does this, so it's not an argument. Read this.
https://www.peta.de/themen/sind-menschen-tiere/#:~:text=People%20sind%20per%20Definition%20Animals,Chimpanzees%20to the%20Family%20der%20Apes.
Yes and we eat our own children like animals or something ๐๐๐
Humans are animals. I don't understand how anyone could believe otherwise. Humans are mammals. We have sensory organs just like any other animal. We reproduce like animals. We are animals.
No. We are human beings. Just as mushrooms are not plants, humans are not animals.
No… But we are still animals, why should that make us anything different?
They are raised to be mindless followers of orders, unable to perceive their own and needs, or they become as aggressive as they themselves had to experience at the hands of their parents.
That's complete nonsense. I'm neither a submissive follower of orders nor aggressive. And neither are my brothers and friends. Here in the Czech Republic, where I live, a good beating is still part of the upbringing in many families. We learn respect, self-discipline, and obedience, but not blind obedience. Our parents aren't monsters; they only want the best for us, just as generations of parents in Germany did in the last century. And you don't want to tell me that that generation is less critical or more aggressive than today's youth, who can only be handled with kid gloves, if at all, and who often don't even bother to question anything but are always loud-mouthed about everything. So who are the submissive followers of orders? Well, definitely not us…
In the Czech Republic, too, the statistics and their scientific evaluation are clear in this regard. Furthermore, you don't know the non-violent alternative, which would be a prerequisite for being able to judge what it does to you, or whether it does anything to you.
So it's just the same old talk that trivializes violence (a real man needs it, otherwise he becomes effeminate, maybe even becomes a girl: Do girls become men if you hit them properly?)…
This is, of course, too one-dimensional/general and therefore not supported by statistics/expertise.
I got slaps in the face and looked back, every single one was more than deserved.
Typical case of trivialization, perhaps to protect the beloved parents
One day as a child, of course, I had teased a girl and received hard blows from my father with the belt
Yes, it's very helpful for me! I think it's good!
So your parents beat you?
This is not about BDSM.
Yes. I get my ass kicked regularly!! Voluntarily!!!