Gute kamera fürs trainspotten?
Moin! Habe seit paar Monaten das trainspotting Hobby für mich entdeckt und wollte vom Filmen mit handy auf eine Kamera umsteigen, habe was das angeht aber leider nicht so ein hohes Budget.
Bräuchte im besten Fall kamera, stativ und passendes Zubehör..
Könnte mir da jemand vielleicht was empfehlen?
Hello
there are different trainspotter motif constellations, for most you only need a far-angled normal zoom.
The question is now about video or still?. With video you have the Rolling Shutter problem with moving trains. It will be difficult at 300€
For a stand picture, a Nikon D5200 (from 125€) with AFS 16-85 VR II (from 125€) and Polfilter 67mm (from 25€) would be on the budget.
Otherwise D3300 (from 100€) or D3200 (from 75€) have almost the same image quality
Moin, I personally prefer to film, but would also like to use the camera for other purposes such as polar lighter, which is why a camera that both can be really practical
Hello
for the liquid film without rolling shutter, you need as small as possible sensors in the budget class. You already have a smartphone.
A video camera or compact camera with Global Shutter in the price situation is also difficult because the used prices of such devices remain quite high. So in the price situation, only the JVC GC PX 1, JVC GC PX 10, JVC GC PX 100 sports analysis cameras are included or even older Casio devices.
http://www.photoscala.de/2011/09/05/fotografiert-und-filmt-flott-hd-high-speed-camera-gc-px10-von-jvc
Polar lights can be filmed or photographed with current smartphones on the main camera with f1.8 to f2.4 optics in expert mode (manuel). That’s work where you have to think. What 99% of the Knips are completely overwhelmed by the topic “DENKEN”, “WORK”. This should/must make the smartphone.
For polar lights one wants cameras with the largest possible sensor.
Now the problem for video of fast moving motifs is that you want a sensor as small as possible and a sensor as large as possible for still image. A big sun camera with Global Shutter costs up from 5,000€ or sports report video cameras with Slow Motion cost 25000€.
The crunch point is you have to decide whether you want a 2 seated sports car or a 40 ton tractor. The compromise between the two is a 2.8 Tonner fast transporter of the night at the Eilexpress with 180 km/h over the highway and arrives 2-3 times faster than truck. That’s not a sports car and no truck.
So there is a long list of compromise solutions, but for the budget I come to Lumix FZ 200 (used from 125€). The device is a kind of Swiss pocket knife but closer to the sports car than to the tractor. Most of what the FZ200 “can” you don’t need for a training spot, but for this you can use the video image for sports reports.
http://www.videoaktiv.tv/magazin/magazine-praxis/video-produced-mit-panasonic-bridgekamera-lumix-fz200.html
http://www.chip.de/test/Panasonic-Lumix_DMC-FZ200-Digital Camera Test_139889522.html
http://www.henner.info/fz200.htm
Otherwise I stay with Nikon D3200/D3300/D5200 with AFS 16-85 as a DX “Grossensorkamera” with Cine Look video features. A “comparable” optics for Sony DSLM costs 300€ upwards.
Video tripods with 2D or 3D fluid neiger are also not in budget to get in is a single-legged tripod with simple ball head used from 10€
Evt a used bridge that used to cut off with good image quality, or other used… In the new-segmend, 300€ are definitif too little. But new doesn’t necessarily mean better. So there are many good pictures that have emerged with older technology. More importantly, the photographer can understand his technique and handle it… Surely today modern cameras are more accurate in the AF, or offer much more possibilities for light-sweak recordings. But the old technology is not getting worse, just because today’s technology has become better. Good and partly evocative images continue to make them. Then it comes to the objective even more like the sensor/camera itself.. The appropriate focal length to the receiving stand points. You can always expand with lenses. Changing to modern systems is, however, more difficult if you have already accumulated an objective park, as you can only use a few more limited on new cameras, which is then only possible with asapers… So it’s time to weigh in what direction you’re going to…
So if you don’t really come far with 300€ I think I’d rather buy myself in a good camera, then I think I’m more useful
Sony RX10 would be highly recommended, better a newer version (Mk2 etc.). At Trainspotting you need quite good zoom and little Rolling Shutter, you’d be well advised with such one.
Less affordable for a 14 year old.
But fits into the budget, the Mk1 and Mk2, partly Mk3 cost good 300-400€.
What’s your budget? Under 300 € you will not really be happy.
Then you can continue using the phone.
Okay then we cleared this for the first time, then I save until I have more budget and then ask again
So, of course, you can look at the used market if you find something.
What I would do for myself at the 300 €.
If I had 300€, since I am still quite young I have no own money, my parents have set me a 150€ budget for my birthday, which is also most likely also for the Christmas gift. since I will not be allowed to make a holiday job until 14 to finance it myself. I think saving is the better option.