Grammatical rules in Tolkien? eg, Gorthaur?

Yeah, what's going on?

As the question suggests, I'm not good at grammar. Meaning, I don't know the rules behind it. Especially in English.

Why is Gorthaur pronounced = Gorfsauer ?

Or Mithrandir = Misfrandir or Thranduil = Sfranduil.

So not a real th sound but a sf sound.

I once saw a video about it, but I can't find it anymore, and it explained it in detail. Something about diphthongs stuck in my mind.

Well, as I said, it's not my strong suit. Can someone summarize this for me in two sentences?

Thx

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Koschutnig
1 year ago

The sibilant [s ] apparently only hear German ears when English speakers come under a word with "th ", because the sound of the Germanic "Thorn" race has survived in English with the writing "th ", while in German in the 2nd sound shift [d ], today [d ] or [t ] has become out.

The English "th" there

both soft and vocal, in the loudspeaker [ ð ] (eg in the article the 'the, the, that' or in either and No , leathe and weather, father, mother and brother among others),

as well as "hard" and voiceless. in the wording [ θ ], eg thing, thorn, theater, threat ).

The pronunciation of [ ð ] and [ θ ] seems to many Germans still a mystery.

So it should work: Put the front part of the tongue directly behind the upper cutting teeth and press the tongue slightly against the teeth, so that a bit of air is accumulated. Now the exciting experience: Press the air between the tongue and the teeth.

If it does not work, then do not replace it under any circumstances! If it really doesn't go, then a [f ] or a [v ] can stand as a substitute. This does not hurt the ears of the listeners as much as the [s] in the wrong place.

indiachinacook
1 year ago

Your debates are either very strangely listed or very false.

  • Gorthaur / Ministry of Education
  • Mithrandir /mi
  • Thranduil / Ministry of Education

The vowel qualities are not really defined, and at r you can also argue

Adomox
1 year ago

I don't know where you're taking these strange debates. "th" is spoken as English "th"; with diphthones (these are vowels) has nothing to do with.

Adomox
1 year ago
Reply to  HerrPEPE

So a fast Google search does not yield sf-speaking.