Goal: 362 km cycling, preparations?
Hey, 🤗
I hope that in a few years I will be able to ride my bike to see someone important to me.
According to the app “Komoot” this would take about 23 hours, covering 362 km with an elevation gain of 3,000 meters.
How can I best prepare for this?
I will most likely also make stops, but that is irrelevant to me for now.
If you need any further information, please ask.
Thanks in advance for all the answers. ❤️
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Hey!
I don't want to make my previous speakers too close, but what they wrote is predominantly cryptic, not comprehensible…
I have been driving in the club since my 15th year, now 35 years. I moved from the race bike to the MTB with almost 35 years, also in the club, since then I have been driving XCM and several times in the year Gravel Marathon & several-day tours with alpine passes.
What you're up to is easier than you probably think! What you need is –>
If you have the necessary will, you can do it if you lack the necessary fighting spirit, you will never be able to do it. Always referred to the necessary training in advance! If you reach and even exceed your training goals, you will also drive the 360 kilometers;)
My last long tour was the Neckartal Cycle Trail, just under 370 kilometers I went through. That was neither agony nor sorrowful, that was rather a beautiful action! You drive something like that somewhere between GA1 and GA2, so no trace of stress.
Keep in mind! There are tours, you don't think so. But if you did it, you believe in yourself!
Best tip…go to training in a club! Then you have experienced people around you who can take you on the right path and give you the necessary tip!
Have fun and register when you get it, Schakka ;D
Thank you for your answer.
With us, unfortunately, as far as I know no cycling club.
Remember me again in a few years, but I'm trying to think about it.
Thanks again
If you don't have a club available, contact a cycling forum. You can also "google" after "Brevet" preparation and training. Eg –> https://raddeluxe.com/bicycle training/training-200-kilometer-audax-brevet/
Okay, thanks 😊
Great! A beautiful destination 🙂
I really don't see that you have to calculate training with several years. If you are not completely unportable so far, it is absolutely realistic in my eyes that you can create the course in autumn in 3 days.
In order to create long distances, the decisive point is not at a high average speed. Especially in the longest possible driving time per day.
Simple invoice:
That's why I say, don't focus on increasing your speed. It's time anyway. But focus on sitting in the saddle for as many hours as possible a day.
And that is really quite simple and fast.
Why don't you just run a route that's long for you now? And when you're gradually ready, you'll make a list of what would help you go on. For example:
And then you change it and drive a long distance again. You'll be much more than before. And then you'll see what keeps you from driving longer. And change it again so you can drive longer on the next trip.
If you go through this consistently some times, you'll get a lot more about the time you can drive a day. Without being really fitter.
Take care of what's going on. For example, if you're standing around for 10 minutes and looking around on the phone to find the right way. By using a good Navi app you save such breaks and make more driving time a day.
Or start early in the morning. If you're sitting on the saddle at 6:00 pm, you're not a problem. When you're on the line at 9:00, you'll look nervous at the clock when it gets dark in the evening.
Try things out. For example, if you prefer to take a 1 hour lunch break and eat a full meal, or get some rolls with the baker and eat one of them every hour.
So find out what motivates you to continue when you literally stand in the rain, your legs are heavy and you still have half a day before you. Endurance is a headache!
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360 km in three days, which are 120 km per day. If you make 10 hours of pure driving time per day, you will have an average speed of 12 km/h. This is about the speed at which the old pensioners are erected in the time before the e-bikes.
Just like that.
Okay, thanks for your help, that helps me a lot.
Would like to give you a star, but don't go
All right, I'm a bit late.
Hey, I have another question, can I practice well with an indoor bike?
Okay, thanks again
As a comparison:
The stages of the Tour de France are rarely longer than 200km. 360km would be a goal tour for a professional sportsman as a day-to-day ettape. This is Ultra Endurance area.
For a practiced, but not completely trained, adult cyclist… this would be very, very strenuous days, or 3 demanding.
In short, this is not realistic. Not without 10 years of training.
Divided to 3x120km… two, three years training. Campsite/hotel for overnight stays. But this is also not in the realistic spectrum at 13.. On the other hand… because you have to train for 3 days in a row 120km+ (and 3000 meters in altitude, which are bright!)… Then 16/17. This is realistic from the point of view.
Otherwise: regular cycling. Increase distances. Start with short distances like 20km, and then climb to 30, 40… etc.. Learn how to plan power and stamina. As you need to feed your body with food so you can also get through.
Okay, thanks and because I know it's unrealistic, I just wanted to know how to start training now
Quark, I guess it was a bad shot.
At 46 years I started driving racing bike in the spring, driving 4000 km in the same year and successfully completing the first cycling marathon next year in June (248 km). This second year I had 6524 km on the speedometer.
So that's not unrealistic to drive such a tour after two or three years.
@isnotmyname,
great success.
I'd like to know where you're taking the 3 years training time.
She's 13. This is a great age for endurance training, as the body is already focused on growth and "reconstruction" thanks to puberty. At the age, one can actually mistreat the body to the heart's content and he still will not take it permanently badly, but rather rejoice in training effects.
Aside from the fact that the body usually wants to do more than the head…
As a club (not a sports club and an age rather over 40), we have made a bike tour to the partner community. 1100 km in 8 days, from the Swabian Alb in Provence, ie not the flattest terrain. The training period from October to May has been enough that even those "housewives" in the association, who had never been driving more than 50 km a day until then, have managed the complete route from their own power.
1000 altitude meters per 100 km sounds for me now also more like 1-2 middle mountain climbs and the usual small crane, which now meets one outside the North German plain. The above-mentioned club tour had more, although the route was naturally oriented to the river valleys.
Proceeding from a complete beginner, towards the stated level of performance, just to overwrite the body at the age.
The view that no sustainable consequences occur at age is wrong. Especially with girls. Unfortunately, the approach is still in some mind, but let's sing from all the performance sports invalids, which would leave everything 20 years later.
And to your altitude-kilometer calculation: She supplied the altitude profile. Look at that. They're almost complete in the last quarter. It's not a river valley tour.
If it were only the first 300km of the tour shown, I would be with you. No.
Maybe. Sinful…eye of the viewer. We don't know their current level either.
But:
She's 13. Alone (as I understood it is the goal) she can't make the tour for overnight stays etc. this year eh, so there is no hurry. I am basically the friend of slower and more sustainable construction.
She makes the training on a lonely fist, not together with experienced cyclists in a club, even then I step on the brake, too much goes wrong when the goals are too ambitious. It doesn't help if it sets them from home chess matt on the second training tour with a calf, or even takes them out completely with a fiber tear. There seems to be quite a high emotional component ("person who is very important to her") in this case, as the snails go up high in terms of physical warning signs.
By the way for the original mailer: This is a very good tip: find a cycling club nearby where you can ride. This helps a lot if someone is able to give the tips, even as regards the optimal setting of your bike, someone can recognize training errors etc. Also, when you get to the 50, 60km region, two are not quite so boring. And there's someone doing something wrong.
And the altitude profile.. just, there comes a little more training on it than to expect at first glance from "only" 360km.
Yeah, well, what's a complete beginner. Among them, you can see the slightly overweight jogging pants killer, who can start smoking at 13 gradually and in sports lessons can not take part each week due to period. Or you can see someone who hasn't been cycling yet, but keeps his body at least in a healthy basic condition.
I have more in mind the latter because I (yes, cliché thinking) do not expect someone from the first group to take such a tour.
Oh, I actively follow the two MTB professionals Jenny Rissveds and Evie Richards, who sometimes speak quite openly about it and I am absolutely with you that there is a lot wrong and too much sacrificed to the idea of performance. But this is professional level and I don't see any reason to talk about professional level here.
With the 12/13/14-year-olds, as I was one myself and had several in the circle of friends, who are just happy that it only needs some commitment and will to feel equal with the almost adults in the track club, I do not see the danger.
Yeah, you're right. I did not take this sufficiently into account, in particular I did not notice that it was in the end in alpine fields. Several rises of >200 meters in a short sequence. One should take into account in planning and preparation. I think it's feasible anyway.
Will be absolutely hard – don't want to get too close to my previous speakers were all 1A tips – would only recommend you to drive 'other' for the route as the mountain will go from the legs at the beginning but after 300 km + will be hard to fight you there. Good luck!
Okay, thanks
Hello we can go together, I saw you coming from the same region as I am, by the way, 14
Why would you do that to you? I've been cycling my whole life and I've been racing for 12 years. In my life, I was pure Km-like on the moon, I was back and I was on my way back. 362 km are a torture that is not healthy in the farthest. You should spread the route you called to 3-4 days. When you enter the exhaustion, the whole musculature spans, which is very bad for the spine. If you just want to do it to prove something to someone, forget it.
I've been distributing it for days, too, and I want to do it because I want to.
But do you have tips on how to prepare me?
In good training, about approx. 2 – 3 years the route is quite feasible in 2 – 3 days. In the plane, I recommend a bike with the Rohloff hub circuit, on stronger slopes, (but only there), a good chain circuit.
Just for me 😉 How old are you?
Oh, dear, there's a million good books about it! Let heart examine, drive pulse 220 minus age and 80-90%, but not hours. Interval. Loading time at least 30 minutes to drive into your fat burning zone. Slow down. Train every second to third day, drive "compensation". This means about 55% of the maximum pulse. Just ask in a cycling club whether you can train in your age group. You will also be well advised and supervised.
Okay and how does a good training look so rough?