GmbH does not exist?
What does it mean if a GmbH does not exist but is stated?
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You can't just say the GmbH doesn't exist. Perhaps the company only has one office in a building?
When you google a GmbH, you immediately come across the operator. I couldn't find a single entry for this company.
Companies must be listed as far as I know.
Look in the company and power of attorney files. I believe they're kept at the district court.
Companies don't have to be found on Google. A GmbH is registered in the commercial register.
No, only if you mistake the VAT ID number for your HR number.
Commercial register number is also fake
If you want to know exactly, ask the company to send you the commercial register extract
It's not registered there. It's called Vitablume GmbH, but there's nothing in the commercial register.
Hello WolkenJode,
I've now searched the commercial register for you, and I couldn't find this "Vitablume GmbH" either.
Every GmbH must be registered in the commercial register.
That means something is wrong here, the company is fictitious in the worst case, at best it's a typo or the name has been changed, etc.
PS: Maybe they're "just" messing up the taxes or something… the product might still be okay…?
Nothing, it still doesn't exist.
Does this further mean that any products purchased from there are most likely fraudulent?
Not every GmbH sells products made from materials. It could also be a company that only sells online products (eg, website creation, etc.).
How can a product be a scam?
You cannot acquire anything from a GmbH that does not exist.
That's exactly how it is. Registration is a mandatory prerequisite. Only through registration does a GmbH become a GmbH. Before registration, the status is GmbH iG (information).
So it looks to me like someone is using a nice-sounding name to sell something.
A German GmbH should, yes.
Nevertheless, they should still appear in the commercial register.
From eBay.
Well, look in the commercial register and see whether the company in question exists.
What do you do with the information?
Google is not a source – but the commercial register is.
They don't exist there either.
Then it seems to be a lie – the tax number would be interesting, perhaps they are still in the process of being founded or converted, … Only people who can speak can be helped.
What connection do you have to this company? What did you buy? Business partners? Didn't receive the product? …
The company's letterhead will list a commercial register number (HRBxxxxxx), a tax number, and/or a VAT ID number. This clearly identifies the GmbH. Perhaps you mistyped a letter or something similar in your search.
Glad you were able to at least solve the mystery of the registration number.
Just keep quiet if you don't have anything important to contribute.
Being right… So cool, while you can't even tell a commercial registration number from a VAT ID number.
There's no need to laugh at others – if you buy Viagra drops like that, it's already dubious enough.
We could only guess until now, so there's no need to rant and rave when we don't even know the information.
I don't know why you want to complain to eBay: You ordered something, received the product, and now you're not happy with it? Then you can sort it out with the seller if the product isn't right.
See for yourself, I've added a picture, it says GERMANY!
I just looked in the Austrian business directory, and the company isn't listed there either. You have the name, so you can look it up yourself. Maybe I missed something again. *Laughs*
Furthermore, the address is in Oberhausen.
In my opinion, Oberhausen does not belong to Austria.
Now, enough of this self-righteousness. The company doesn't exist!
No, Austria also has GmbHs.
no, she can also sit in Austria
You are aware that the term GmbH is German and the company must therefore be based in Germany.
Are you aware that the manufacturer does not necessarily have to be in Germany?
A valid tax ID at least means that there is an entrepreneur with EU business.
But the manufacturer doesn't exist either, and it's listed under a limited liability company! I should have been able to find it in the commercial register anyway.
A valid tax ID doesn't necessarily mean anything. It could still be a fraud.
Um, you're not reading correctly.
The number is a valid VAT ID number. Not a commercial register number.
The ebäh ad doesn't say anything about a GmbH in the legal information.
Manufacturer is not the same as seller!
The product itself is questionable enough—but you received it, and what's interesting is what's on the receipt, not on the product. You don't go to Aldi and think Haribo is Aldi.
You don't seriously think that the manufacturer is also the seller, do you?
But the product says Vitablume GmbH.
I've tried everything. Believe me. My name isn't Forest Gump. I'm past the mental excuse phase. I just got ripped off.
I bought something on eBay, and I was suspicious of the product from the start because it was a supplement with a rather subtle effect. The color of the liquid didn't match the nominal color scheme either.
eBay has been called in.
The number was very revealing…
It can also be a sole proprietorship, which doesn't require registration. The eBay listing doesn't mention anything about a GmbH.
VAT ID NUMBER VERIFICATION (ust-id-prufen.de)
Please, thank you, you're welcome. Valid VAT ID number. The company exists. No need for drama.
This is not a registration number, but the VAT ID number.
Registration numbers begin with HRB for corporations.
That has nothing to do with being stupid. Sometimes things just happen that aren't entirely clear. Instead of "Bäcker GmbH," it might also be "Die Bäcker Gmbh," or vice versa.
You don't even say what it's about—how are you affected by it? Have you fallen victim to fraud? At least the tax office is interested in an unregistered GmbH 😉 If there's an invoice, then various criteria must be met.
The number is listed on eBay: DE 34444 8237.
But it's a fake… no entries in the commercial register. And yes, I entered the number under the registration number tab…
I'm not that stupid. I wrote everything correctly. I was just led into the light. Too bad.
Then it's a lie. What else?