Gitarre und Altsaxophon Tonhöhenunterschied?

Ich spiele Gitarre und mein Bruder Saxophon. Wir wollten ein Stück zusammenspielen und dabei habe ich festgestellt, dass die Töne völlig verschieden sind, und ich meine nicht in verschiedenen Oktaven. Sein C zum Beispiel klingt bei mir wie ein E. Habe ich irgendwas übersehen? Wir beide benutzen ja den gleichen Notenschlüssel.

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altkanonist
1 year ago

The old saxophone is called Es-Altsaxofon. The C he played is sounding an es. Therefore, an es-altsaxofon in the orchestra also has an es-voices. Of course, by the other tones also in a different tone. When the piano plays C major (no sign), the Alt-Sax A major (3# more) has piano B major Alt-Sax G major. Alt-Sax always has 3# more or 3b less.

anjanni
1 year ago

What kind of saxophone do you have?

There are B- and Es-Saxophones (if I get this so completely right behind…). This is the “basic tone”. If the guitar is completely “normal” (with tuning fork or tuning fork e.g.), then you have to be able to transpose a bit before the interplay works.

Basstom
1 year ago
Reply to  anjanni

Nonetheless, a C is and remains a C. No matter what instrument it is played, no matter in which key the piece is listed.

anjanni
1 year ago
Reply to  Basstom

Yeah, or just not… if I play the basic tone on my trumpet, that’s “sounding” a B, though it’s a C after my notes…

Basstom
1 year ago
Reply to  fxndxr38

Okay, then he has to transpose.

anjanni
1 year ago
Reply to  fxndxr38

That means the Grundton is an Es. If he plays for C notes and the written C is an It, then there are two possibilities: to change the guitar accordingly, to transpose on the clarinet, or to transpose with the guitar. The simplest should be the tuning of the guitar, so that from the C there becomes an esteem. Then you don’t have to learn so much new, and the handles aren’t so complicated…

Basstom
1 year ago

I have such a thing, but I only use it very rarely to control the neck curvatures of my guitars. I haven’t played it yet, I think. Can’t remember… 🤣

anjanni
1 year ago

Right. Since I’ve never had a Kapo, I just didn’t have the idea.

Basstom
1 year ago

Of course you can tune the guitar, but I wouldn’t like to vote my guitars a third higher. The elevated string has an effect on the string position, so it might be a better idea to grab a capodaster.

Basstom
1 year ago

The tones are clearly defined, they refer to the chamber tone A (normally 440 Hz). Thus, a C on each instrument is a C and it sounds like a C. Whatever, but one of you makes something basically wrong.

Basstom
1 year ago
Reply to  fxndxr38

Take a chromatic tuning device and play the C on your guitar. Then you see if you really play a C. Then let your brother comfort the C on his horn and see if he really comforts a C.

anjanni
1 year ago
Reply to  Basstom

Depends on what you learned in saxophone games: I play trumpet. that is a B-instrument…

Basstom
1 year ago
Reply to  anjanni

Then he must transpose.

altkanonist
1 year ago
Reply to  Basstom

Basstom has probably never played in the orchestra. He has no idea

Basstom
1 year ago
Reply to  altkanonist

I wrote…

I just missed the saxophone.

And actually, I’ve never had to play with winds. That was never in my interest.

But what about you, wanting stress, or how should I interpret your statement?

KarlKlammer
1 year ago

In practice, a capodaster is used in guitars rather than inappropriate.

anjanni
1 year ago

I’m telling you all the time… It’s easier to change the guitar…

Basstom
1 year ago

I have just overlooked the need to transpose the saxophone.