Gibt es einen rationalen Grund, sich nicht umzubringen?
Also ich rede jetzt nicht von mir, ob ich betroffen bin oder nicht ist jetzt egal, aber ich hab schon mit mehreren leuten darüber diskutiert und habe immer gewonnen, weil jeder immer nur mit “buhuhu deine familie, deine freunde” und so gekommen ist, aber nie einen richtigen Grund genannt hat, der mich überzeugen könnte.
was sagt ihr?
With the suicide you take the chance of new positive experiences.
most of these positive experiences are quite short-term. Is that worth it?
Positive experiences can affect thinking and feeling sustainably.
Of course, it is not enough to have fun in depression for an hour. It must be permanent changes or incisive experiences.
That would be a question that belongs to your therapy. Are you meanwhile?
Completely rational? We don’t know what’s coming after death. Maybe it won’t be better than this world. It is more appropriate to make the best of this world. Rational we cannot rule out that one of the religions with eternal condemnation of suicide is not true. To end your own life prematurely could draw a few million unsightly years in the next world.
Death comes with many unanswered questions and thus also risks. Rational does not make sense to face these risks earlier than necessary.
Yes, life is not a pony farm. It is a mean and ugly place and will crush you if you allow it.
Personally, I definitely see reasons to live on. But can also understand that there are some have not 😉
I think there is a rational reason to think:
If you don’t, you can make other choices in your life and you can also make another experience. It may be that you do not see these experiences as beautiful, but you ask for rational reasons.
It doesn’t matter rationally, because this kind of feeling that the experience has no value is not rational. It may be that you have written that your feeling is unpleasant, but here is the rational answer that you can also overcome it.
So you may doubt the rationality of reasons, but there is no rational reason to kill yourself. If you think that you understand that everything that people want is not rational, then that would also apply to your idea of not wanting to live.
Of course, there is also the question of concrete: when it comes to a boy who is about 16 years old and thinks so pessimistic that he wants to kill himself, then the question arises, what makes him so pessimistic. In your position, it is so that within the rational one, nothing essentially distinguishes you from the other young people of your age. The only thing that matters there is this tendency from you to the strongly pessimistic thinking.
There is a clear rational reason not to kill yourself. The rational thinking boy recognizes in your place that actually the whole extent of his pessimism is not rational and therefore it is important to change thinking in this area and not think so pessimistic. Because you have the same chances as the other young people, it doesn’t make any rational sense to kill you.
Also the possibility to acquire rational thinking for the future would be another rational reason for not being killed.
These are all speculations considering that you know nothing about me
Oh, dear. But how would that happen that you were different from the others?
How about you just let me rest? You’ve done enough
There is no rational reason to kill yourself.
well, yet, therapy is not always the solution
In your case, it is very likely that it will help in the end.
Didn’t it even do that?
Then it is the wrong therapy
Then I’ll press the thumbs. Let’s not give up hope.
as I have said
and what do your parents say? Aren’t they gonna take you to a real therapy place?
Find a proper therapy place. Waiting times are almost 2 years, but with engagement you can also get a therapy place very quickly, easily within less than 2 months.
A therapy, a proper therapy you urgently need!
if I ever see them again, the last date is almost one and a half months ago
I can only assume she doesn’t have it. You may also ask for this, which is usually not bad
no warning, is no question I would normally ask a psychologist
yes, but it takes
That’s a shame. Does she actually have the training for psychological psychotherapist?
And will you, according to your parents, get a therapy place?
I’ve got a psychologist I’m talking to, but I don’t have a proper therapy place.
do not know
That’s a shame. What’s that about? Didn’t your parents call you well enough around?
How can you say that the therapy doesn’t help you if you don’t have a therapist?
I still have no therapeutics
You know why? Isn’t the therapist like you?
No
That’s why you’re asking this question.
I’ve never thought about suicide in my life.
And believe me, I’m not just much older than you, but I’ve been through more bad, stressful situations and diseases.
How do you want to know why I ask?
With your glass ball, you could foresee if my Döner will become even more expensive in the future
I don’t need a glass ball. I read your questions.
Then don’t make any guesses, häääää xD
I don’t want to know. And now let it be good
The last question was at least a month ago, Sherlock, lately a lot has happened what you don’t know
This is a deeply subjective decision. That is, the question is not whether others can call you rational reasons, but whether you can find them for you, for which it is worth living. Others can certainly call you their reasons, and there may be something that might convince you (because you can feel it), but ultimately you have to find the reasons for yourself. Because we don’t know your life, we don’t know what potential there is in your life…
My advice would be that with a professional person you illuminate the reasons for and against life. If you think about suicide, you are often in such an ambivalence: you think so, and so. You can then think together, for example: What does the part that is against life need to live again?
I don’t know if that helps you because I think you need to find your own reasons, but reasons for me are:
I am not suicidal
Okay, so this is more a philosophical exercise?
and I thought I’d be gone
Definitely, your therapist and your mother hopes that it will be easier and better for you with time and that will make it feel much easier and better. I think that has worked very well with many other people.
so I am no longer acutely suicidal, but still pissed because nobody gives me answers. you force me to stay alive but tell me not what
Whether a rational and above all objective reason can convince someone not to take life, I doubt.
For rationality does not matter to the person concerned. This decision is a mere decision of feeling, to which rational thoughts hardly have access.
That is why I also think that the attempt to stop people from suicide has to be put on an emotional level.
Only from possibility to hear, to be able to experience many beautiful things, someone will not be convinced of the survival. Something like that, in small steps (he) feel and experience. Often a trust relationship with a therapist is sufficient as a basis.
Suicide leads above all to inconceivable, yes to stamina, not tortuous pain in the survivors
purely rationally, he leads a bit far to stay on earth. To express this rationality is, of course, not what a semi-sensical person does
I don’t think it’s the person interested who she would hurt with it
I can also understand this
You save preparation for the suicide and do not have to consider which method you can apply.
There is also no risk that it does not work.
Because you only have a life. If you throw this away, there is no return. You don’t experience anything positive that could come.
yes, they all say that, but it can be that one life is too much
So I’m not talking about whether I’m affected or not now doesn’t matter, but I’ve been discussing it with several people and I’ve always won
Fact is: You’re talking about yourself.
You still believe that you win discussions….
And if I listen to this, you’re more likely to feel like you’re blocking.
Therapeutic help would be advisable.
I am not suicidal anymore
A look at your and this question is enough to prove the opposite.
Jepp is the same
real? I have read that this is one more acute than the other, but as always, I have asked for rational reasons, so it doesn’t matter
Suicidal and Suicide-prone is the same
(besides, I’m already with a psychologist who’s really weird)
I am suicidal, but no longer suicidal
there is a difference
Ne, death is the most beautiful thing that can only happen to me in this terrible world
I don’t know a reason to kill me. Only if I had an incurable disease and would suffer very much from it. There’s nothing more to do or just with great pain. Otherwise not.