Gewicht, reiten?
Hey Leute.
Ich hab meine beste Freundin mit zum Reiten genommen in meiner Reitschule und da meinte einfach ein neuer Trainer (also mit neu mein ich seit so einem halben Jahr bisschen länger da) das sie zu schwer zum Reiten sei und ich dachte mir nur so wie rude. Sie wollte springen machen aber ich hab ihr das halt erst ausgeredet weil sie bis jetzt nur Schritt und Galopp kann irgendwie kann sie beim Trab den Takt nicht finden aber ist ja auch egal bei der Frage. Sie ist Recht gut ausbalanciert da sie mit mir Eiskunstlauf macht und auch Trainerin ist und ein mega gutes Körpergefühl. Also wie gesagt sie kann schon so paar Grundlagen und hoppst nicht mega arg Rum und ich habe ihr geraten mit Voltigieren anzufangen weil sie sich dann erstmal nur auf den Sitz konzentrieren kann und dem Pferd dann nicht im Maul Rum reißt ( macht sie nicht aber manchmal machen es halt Anfänger wenn sie Panik bekommen oder so ihr wisst es selber)
Also wie gesagt der Trainer meint sie ist zu schwer… Sie wiegt 90 Kilo und ja es ist viel aber sie hat schon erfolgreich 14 Kilo und irgendwas abgenommen und macht auch weiter und ich Stelle mir so die Frage wenn ich so Voltigieren anschaue dann sehe ich manchmal 3 Menschen auf dem Pferd. In so einer Gruppen Kür Dings sind immer 2 auf dem Pferd drauf und ich mein ihr könnt mir nicht erzählen, dass 2 erwachsene Frauen im Leistungssport so viel weniger wiegen als eine Person mit 90 Kilo. Die Volti Matte (ka wie nennt man das? Auch Schabracke???) Federt ja anscheinend 150 Kilogramm ab deswegen frag icj mich warum sie zu schwer ist.
Es geht hier ja nicht um Flickflack und Salto auf dem Pferd sondern erstmal um knien, stehen, liegen auf dem Pferd im Schritt und eben die Grundgangarten. Die Unterrichtsstunden sind Privatstunden und dauern 30 minuten also ich finde es ist immer wichtig wie lange ein Pferd unter einer Belastung arbeitet.
Zu dem Pferd: Carlos ist 1,82 cm vom Stockmaß so Pi mal Daumen, ist 9 Jahre alt bis M ausgebildet und dementsprechend auch gut bemuskelt meiner Meinung nach und von der Rasse ist er Hannover.
Wie sehr ihr das? Ich bin mir bei der Sache sehr unschlüssig da sie zum einen meine Freundin ist und ich beide Seiten verstehen kann. Wäre ich haber der Reitlehrer würde ich sie reiten lassen, es ist für mich noch im Grenzbereich wenn man bedenkt dass viele sehr große Männer auch reiten mit so 1,80 und dementsprechend dann auch mehr wiegen und da ist die Hebelwirkung sogar größer als bei ihr
Dankööö fürs lesen und bitte bleibt respektvoll! (Sorry wenn’s verwirrend war, weil Kommasetzung ist eh nicht so meins und so und generell wusste ich nicht wie ich es schrieben soll.
Well, I don’t know if you can really practice your seat at the Voltegieten… at my seat I practice riding lessons on the horse, which is suitable for my weight, on a very normal saddle you can practice your seat best, in my opinion.
I can somehow understand the riding instructor, after all it is his horses (or is he responsible for them). But of course it’s unpleasant for your girlfriend and unfriendly from the RL, but he probably said his mind. You have to accept that she can’t be on the horse.
Maybe pick up another farm with other horses (which can carry a little more weight). The teacher on your farm actually wants the best for the horses.
Love
Ps: I think you mean:
This is called Voltegierpad and not Schabracke or so 😉 https://reitsport-grossmann.de/reitsport/produkte/voltigieren/
I know the horses longer than he and other coaches don’t mind
Your whole discussions aren’t targeted. Everyone has to decide what he’s doing.
Voltage is a correspondingly trained horse, which has to carry such peaks with excellently balanced people only for short moments. And not every man over 180 is so heavy. I know well-trained, musculous, and guys who put a little more than 70 kg on the scale.
It’s very lonely that the girlfriend has already taken a lot – so on, then there’s nothing going to stop riding.
If the coach thinks no, it’s a no. An unbalanced rider who weighs 90kg will hurt a horse. It’s not about weight. Men weigh so much. It’s about falling into the back of the horses because it’s not so practiced
She can already ride right. It’s about that she gets feeling for it horse in step and that’s really not gay I don’t know what world you live in and in the icebox you have more balance you finally stand on 4mm so how to do as if you don’t have a balance
She can’t ride if she doesn’t even find the clock in the trab. Sorry, she belongs to the categorie beginners. But you probably don’t understand how infinitely far away it is from good riding. I live in reality and white hate that horse riding is horse riding and ice-creaming is skating. These are 2 different things, need a different body feeling, a different balance. I’m sorry, but I understand why you’re upset – you’re just not so far to see that.
It’s not even about jumping. And yes I could it from the beginning as I am very hypermobile and my hip is loose but at that time it went on my back so yes there are people who can from the beginning there are people who have been riding for more than 8 years ind can still not sit a gallop and not to mention Trab. And I find someone who hasn’t had riding lessons yet and can sit Galopp is already very good. Then the trab comes fast. I couldn’t ride before my first riding lessons at all I didn’t even know how to run properly and now I got LK 3 and I’m learning. I don’t care what you think about it, the discussion is over for me I find the weight goes completely clear and you start in the first step because there is always what to improve I mean when did you last see a 100% in the dressage? I haven’t experienced yet, so you don’t ride perfectly I don’t listen to judge
It annoys me as or as toxic the horse riding is so disgustingly easy.
So beautiful life still and good is!
It’s not about more or less. It’s about having to learn riding and finding the right mix of tension and looseness. It’s just because you can’t have a good ice skating for a long time. What do you think? That you can do that directly? If you don’t find the clock when riding, you don’t have to jump. For the good and for the safety of horse and rider. Point.
But it does. I run myself so I can compare it. And glacial runners have much more body tension like riders but I’ll let it stand as you can’t talk about it now
I’m just saying that there’s a distinctly different pace in the icebox than riding. Do not find the cycle during riding has much to do with the correct body tension and at the same time mobility and looseness in the hip. This cannot be compared
Yes do that, but you can’t be sure and she probably doesn’t know what it’s about, she doesn’t find the clock because who’s doing the skating has clock. This is the sport I’ve built up myself and you can nix without tact
But she writes that in her question. I therefore trust in the statement
Yes, but you can just say nix because they do not know the horse or the rider. So you should just leave it.
It’s not just about horse
Who knows if it’s tactless. Nobody knows.
She says she basically has problems in the trab, not with a certain horse
There are also simply horses that are difficult to sit. I have a horse that should actually be a pony and he keeps driving me something back and he took so long, though I’ve already left A/L tournaments before and can actually sit. You don’t know how this horse is running. Probably it was also a private horse because in the riding school she must not ride
I think I’ll do both and it’s just about things in the step that everyone can. How many children have we pulled the horses on the mouth rum like many huans riding outside in a rollercoaster or a lame horse and the leisure riders think they are better and everyone on this app and especially the pony thinks they have riding inventing and chatting anything because they are of course also the opinion that you have riding the hacks below is just wrong because they have no idea of riding out and just any kind of talk is just like a horse. You simply spread bullshit without even trying a synapse once.
Nothing against you but that’s the truth. And no you don’t need to answer me because I’m right and I’m gonna ignore you and don’t see your message anyway.
Well, the RL will know what and why he says it. He finally has the responsibility for the school horses. And if they are not suitable (you can’t judge it!), to wear a heavyweight person as a horse starter, that is to be accepted.
And… sorry, but how someone wants to volute with this weight, I’m sneaky, because there’s no physical mobility (if they were on the horse at all in the gallop???).
And this is not “common”, but realistic.
Bro she’s making icebox and has the trainer’s license… Eiskunstlauf is more strenuous than riding. And no, the guy’s just not at the bodyshamen anymore. He also tells them to lose weight so what is wrong with what is not so and yet I can clearly judge that I am not 15 I have a lot of experience with horses and have a separate one. So no I don’t think he can judge it better than I know where the horse has been for years longer than he and other trainers have nothing against it so it’s just him and he does the beginners but also the B and A trainers say they can and he is at most b more c
Why do you actually ask if you know everything better?
Sorry, you’re probably more concerned about yourself if that triggers you…
And yes, of course, I must be responsible for a horse, and this is the riding instructor here, very clever and clear: “You don’t!” … and he doesn’t even have to justify that!
If you think that’s not true, just try it in another riding school… and the next … and the next …
Isn’t that harder? For this, one cannot compare such sports.
you will not leave this woman on an untied horse – no matter how mobile she is. even popular horses are not indefinitely capable of suffering.
first you practice on the wood horse. would have been a good start
You don’t ride. You’re just carrying yourself around. If you were really riding, you wouldn’t write such a bullshit.
I’m not rude, but honest. If your ego doesn’t get clear, it’s not my problem.
And the only person who’s just blaming himself here is you. I don’t say anything and I don’t even know about it.
You probably need less condition for riding than for ice skating. Sorry, but I do both sports there I know better and you’re enormously rude and just embarrass yourself
It’s not more exhausting and when riding, it takes just as much body tension.
On the basis of your few sentences, you realize very well that you have absolutely no idea of riding the subject.
That’s more exhausting. If you need more body tension than riding, so I can compare it both. I also believe as a trample as you can not be calm from
If 90Kg is too heavy, 75% of all riding men are no longer on the horse…
A fully grown, healthy horse (no pony), can easily carry over 100 kg.
has to do with riding about as much as a tretroller with motorbike driving.
you don’t learn to sit there. at least not for riding.
if the riding teacher thinks that your friend is too heavy for his horses, then she’s too heavy. at least as a beginner.
I know people who weigh a little more for whom there are quite horses – because they are really experienced riders and ride well.
on a voltigier horse you will not let your friend down.
No person who thinks about it from the horse would leave a person who can’t ride with such a weight on the horse.
Yes what you talk so he wears so much weight he goes international and can carry it. How you do
Maybe you should go back to primary school and learn to write. That’s really creepy what you’re doing.
Just because a horse always wears so much, it’s not healthy. It’s not that. These are pains for the horse.
Very short, but an adult man can weigh up to 90kg. There are also enough rides or rides to learn.
With nem trained 90kg man, no one says that you can’t ride, it’s too heavy.
It depends on how the person can ride. Never one should put a person who cannot ride and so hard is on a horse.
Your parents must be so proud of you…
But don’t worry, I believe in you. At some point, every person gets at least a little intelligence
You’re so disgusting who you think you’re old. Better like that?
Child, you’re just getting embarrassed for you…
Do yourself the favor and just leave it.
You have proved very well by now that you have no idea of horses or the German language. You don’t have to prove us any more mouse.
In addition, as I said, I’m not ugly, but honest, and if that’s your ego I’d say your bad luck.
And no, you’re not my future.
And no, no one’s my girlfriend.
And who is ugly here when you call others fat?
And how do you even want to know how old I am?
It’s and remains that you have less idea than a toast.
You’re such a ugly person. And in the first sentence there is no comma. You think you’re so smart and what I know is you’re so stupid you don’t even see it. I am your future that is already aware or is your angle so small? What’s so disgusting about you is that you’re going to grow up with your age and you’re degrading yourself and your unexisting self-esteem to make it two meters forward. I don’t care what you’re talking about, but I’m not the questioner or an animal torturer. Your girlfriend here this punk thing or whatever that means she thinks she’s better but she’s fat and rides herself. No wonder you don’t see her comment here. You’re not perfect, but you think you’re so far away from it and it’s so sad that the old generation made the riding so toxic. Your generation has been more complete so I don’t know what you’re doing here. I’m blocking you now because you’re not worth anything.
As I speak English almost professionally, it should be quite good to be Schnucki.
Well, I know you have no idea about riding or riding horses. You proved enough.
Besides, I don’t take you down, I’m talking about facts. If your pride is scratched, I can’t do anything for child.
Well, Abitur and studies are different than a primary school degree, but you’ll definitely learn that in primary school. Don’t give up.
After all, I do not torture animals with ignorance and egoism.
Well, that’s not true, but let’s stand that way. You feel so great and you’re not. And in addition, my native language is English so let’s see the stupid you are standing there in English because you can’t do anything so just be quiet. You don’t have any arguments to go against or anything else, so you can only go to spelling because otherwise you have to admit that you don’t know anything… and that’s as ridiculously honest as an old woman sits in front of the cell phone and a juvenile goes down because of a seemingly bad grammar although there’s no reason for this because I’m in school at 1.75 in the gymnasial upper level. So be quiet with your main school degree and spread your hatred somewhere else. I’m blocking you now that you’re not worth it. Sad thing
My spelling corresponds to the German language and grammar but ok Hasi.
Yours do not even meet the requirements of a primary school.
Miss obess your spelling is also not the best just saying why you then criticize another person and even their internet people always use the spelling because nothing else happens to you
She just needs a strong horse, a big Norwegian, e.g., bigger horses are usually even more relaxed.
Hi 90 Kg is the upper limit my riding instructor says, but then you should be able to ride perfectly, then it would be okay to recommend to take your girlfriend some more off
It’s on the horse too and nobody can ride perfectly, even you can’t. I don’t understand why she should wait because the 5 kilos are at such a weight ka fast down and you never know what happens tomorrow if you’re going to get over by men bus, car accident no idea it can always happen. Sure you think as unrealistic and so, but it’s just the truth.
Is there already stable horses where the weight can be carried, but whether they have such a horse in the stall? it must also be suitable for your girlfriend, horse is not equal horse
on the log is ok, a strong horse must still be
Yeah, but he’s at the lounge anyway. And if it doesn’t work you can always break
in the stable are many horses, with which one can taste partly, but sitting on it is something else there the horse can be thick and hard to drive,
I’ve been riding for 14 years and working in a stable
Yeah, you’re right. So I’m just trying. I think that the horse fits he was my idea and I already know him for two years and it’s such a nice but honest horse and since I think you can see it right now but this riding instructor who was so rude he didn’t even say nicely so I said it really nicely here but I almost freaked out.