Funkstrecke für Glasfaseranschluss?
Ich warte nun seit 5 Jahren auf meinen Glasfaseranschluss. Vor einigen Wochen ist die Leitung bis ins Haus eingeblasen worden. Laut Anbieter ist bis spätestens Jahresende der Anschluss freigeschaltet.
Ich muss mit dem Anschluss zwei Gebäude versorgen. Z.Z. habe ich dafür zwei Anschlüsse von der Telekom.
Gebäude A braucht das komplette Angebot von Internet, Telefon und WLAN. Gebäude B braucht nur WLAN.
Nun ist aber der Anschluss in Gebäude B.
Mein wohl falscher Gedanke war, über eine Funkstrecke das Signal von B zu A zu schicken.
Aber was da so am Markt ist, beamt ja nur das WLAN und nicht auch das Signal für Telefon und Fernsehen.
Die Gebäude liegen ca. 30 m auseinander.
Ich könnte nun sicherlich einen Graben graben und ein Kabel verlegen. Das würde ich aber gerne vermeiden.
HIer also meine Frage:
Gibt es eine zuverlässige Lösung, alle drei Signalebenen auf dem Funkweg zu übertragen?
Von den vorhandenen 1gBit würde ich die Hälfte in Gebäude A brauchen, die andere Hälfte bliebe in Gebäude B. Telefon primär in Gebäude A. Evt. auf in B, Fernsehen in B würde nicht genutzt werden, auch wenn es ja eigentlich ohne Probleme gehen sollte.
Natürlich wäre es hier besser gewesen, den Anschluss in Gebäude A legen zu lassen, aber es gab Gründe, das nicht zu tun.
Es wäre klasse, wenn jemand hier Licht ins Dunkel bringen würde und vielleicht sogar geeignete Hardware nenne könnte.
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you could attach professional access points with directed antennas to both buildings and thus build a kind of directional radio link. This should be stable enough if there are no obstacles in the way and the alignment of the antennas is made correct. But the costs and effort are not necessarily much lower than to transfer a cable between the buildings.
Your provider transmits only IP data via fiberglass, over which also phone and TV runs. with the solutions mentioned, all IP data, i.e. also Internet and TV, are transmitted between both buildings.
That’s what I’m thinking.
But meanwhile, I have learned that you can buy fiberglass as ready-to-plug prefabricated cables. It’ll be fine.
Thanks for the input.
I just looked at the Fritzboxes in question. Of course they have an entrance for the glass fiber. But I need an exit. Or something that splits the signal cable into two connections. One then leads to router 1 in building B, the other through the earth to router in Gebädue A.
Do I see that right?
here someone has written well what you need when cabling by fiberglass.
yes, but for the connection between the buildings you do not necessarily need glass fiber, because it also does a Cat7 cable, then you can use the normal Ethernet ports.
I thank you all, but I can only say one answer.
Thanks for the link.
Since it was a topic there, I would point out that the building A and B have different electricity meters. So are completely separated electrically.
In the case of the glass fiber laying of the Internet providers, it is also possible to drill horizontally from the road through the garden etc. Vllt, that’s something for you.
Spread “more appropriate” on the buildings (at all places prefer telephony and TV!): keyword QoS.
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I’d have to put the cable on my own property. That wouldn’t be a problem. I’ve seen how they tortured themselves two days to push through the glass fiber and 5 m street.
We are here in the end-mortem area and thus stone-rich. The floor is thus full of pebbles from sand grain to small car in size. You never know what to do.
I’d probably borrow a trench milling machine and use the cable in an empty pipe approx. 30 cm deep to avoid conflict with other lines. And I’m sure there’s more than I know.
Okay, but if there’s no galvanic isolation, so if you don’t, for example, use glass fibers, still think about the potential balance.
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Okay, thanks. I’d never have come to it.
The electrics of both buildings can e.g. in the event of a lightning impact on very different high voltages, so that possibly several 100V or even more flows via your LAN connection between the buildings when it is electrically conductive, i.e. no glass fiber. In the darkest case, there are also dead people where one would not have expected it. As I said, with glass fiber no topic, otherwise talk to an electrician beforehand!
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/potential compensation
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Not that anything would tell me about potential compensation.
Over 30 meters or more, to use one or more repeaters to bridge this route, well can go well, but rather less.
If you want to supply with ON line 2 buildings, you should move over a LANKABEL (preferably with pipe), over the garden or so, if possible.
At 30 meters airline and without obstacles, you could also think of stronger repeaters or similar, but at the latest you would have to invest money.
The better choice would be to move a Lankan.
Thanks for the answer.
Would such repeaters not only transport the WLAN signal? I have to beam over the phone and television.
that doesn’t matter… it’s all about IP… and WLAN is just a transport medium for Internet Protocol (IP) things…
It’s not gonna work.
You can also watch TV on the Internet. Otherwise the other building needs an extra port
Be careful!
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I’m sure I’d have the necessary hardware cost. I’d like to tax the budget for 1000 €. I also have someone who would be competent to set it up.
We operate five apartments and a farm café in Building B and would like to extend the concept of use by seminars. That’s what I need. There are no TVs in the apartments.
I live in building A and of course I want the full programme.
If a Cat 7 is a walkable path and radio path is not possible, I will plan it in the direction. At the transfer point, the provider offers a suitable Fritzbox, from which I should be able to pass through a cable to my 7590. Or, if desired, any other suitable router.
Thank you for your help. I have to go to Heia.
As I wrote in the first comment, glass fiber multimode is the “cheaper” type fiber, for really long distances you take “single fashion”) is future-proof, but for the purpose exaggerated, I would rather put on copper. Especially because then the hardware becomes more expensive at both ends because you then need suitable switches.
Cat 7 is 10x as fast as your connection to the outside if you have 10 GBit capable hardware on both sides (the usual home routers can usually only 1 GBit). At least on page A, the configuration is somewhat more complicated, at least if the thing does not have a mesh mode like the Fritzbox.
That’s what we do. Here’s Greenfiber at the start. They offer the house connection for free, for a contract for two years.
Even if I don’t need it, I’d be stupid not to take it. There is no contractor for 780 euros, everything grows up, puts the connection and rebuilds everything finely clean. Payment on rates over two years. It’s really not easier.
In-house is going to be a challenge, but I can take my time.
Now that I’m not a specialist, Multmode tells me nothing.
Wouldn’t a Cat x cable be sufficient as a connection? Is that what the signal would do? So that a router at the reception site would provide me with phone, TV and internet?
The Wemacom makes the expansion. The conclusion of a usage contract with the Wemag is mandatory. So I couldn’t choose another provider.
Glass fiber goes, of course, that doesn’t have to put your provider, you can also budge it yourself. Laying / splicing (so that the cable connects to a patch panel on both sides) is the problem because the devices are expensive (external border?). And then you need a switch with matching SFP on both sides. 30 meters are possible with multimode, there is not even single mode.
If you can pull a 30 m fiber optic cable from the main connection, underground in the empty tube, you are where you want to go. Our supplier sells appropriate cables for cabling inhouse. They should also be suitable for laying them to the side house.
Who’s lying to you?
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“On site” has a somewhat special meaning here. The only infrastructure in our village is a mailbox.
Fiberglass for the connection would be possible? I thought of a conventional Cat 7 cable or something.
The provider won’t go back there, I’m afraid.
Of course, I would make two wall breakthroughs.In the interior also one or the other. That’s the smaller problem.
We have been renovating a large farm ensemble for 12 years and everything is available from the Stemmhammer via air pressure tools to the excavator.
About nomale network cable Cat 7 or better for 10 GBit over 100m. With regard to active components (routers, etc.), you should, however, ask a specialist company on site…
At best you bring the second glass fiber line underground to House B. Whether your provider offers corresponding lengths, you need to ask.
The house connection probably does not necessarily have to be made by wall break-through, but is obviously much more professional than a cable through the window. You always have predetermined breaking points.
Yeah, it wouldn’t be a problem with cable. But the laying is not quite trivial.
I was hoping there was a solution by radio.
As already written, the bandwidth should be roughly halved. What do I need for a cable?
With regard to telephone and television, this is nothing “special” that works on fiberglass all via Internet protocol. TV by multicast or unidirectional connection, phone via SIP. Bu needs “only” a LAN connection between the two buildings, the rest is software. And nothing goes over cables. Except maybe glass fiber instead of copper, but for 1GBit this is oversized.
It doesn’t work. The speed is only available when the glass fiber is directly in contact. Schlauer would have been a second line to building B.
Television over the Internet is not an option. I already need the complete signal to be able to unlock all the comfort functions of the receiver.
Thus, the signal that the glass fiber supplies 1zu1 would have to be transmitted. And ideally by radio.
Why not transfer a glass fibre yourself? Amazon…
You’ll never get the radio stable…
and in copper-Ethernet constantly strikes the lightning…
Even for glass fibers, I would at least let myself be consulted at OBI or so… for lightning and thunder protection…
How would the lightning strike?
That would be a cable that leads from the transfer point in building B to the router in building A. Placed in the ground.
Thanks for the link. There was something I thought about. I thought you’d have to put a naked glass fiber that you’d have to connect somewhere.
With such a cable, it seems to me quite reasonable.
yes… fiberglass is totally good… we also have in the company… there are probably 10Gbit/s going through… and this at the same time in both directions… is future-proof…
a plastic tube around it would probably not be wrong… in the company they are just there… but outdoors might be stupid… even though the cable is suitable for outdoors…
Lightning can be pigs… they don’t necessarily hit the roof… they can also blow deep into the ground… then both houses burn when s stupid runs….
So in the company we use switches that can make glass fiber and copper… Amazon…
Then I also need a Fritzbox that is suitable for fiberglass?