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peterobm
3 years ago

would be an advantage – if the towing vehicle can pull 3.5T, it can drive.

only with B – max. 3.5 T. where the permissible total weight of pulling vehicle and trailer counts here.

can be an advantage, depending on the later career choice. e.g. in crafts

or a horse trailer – with 2 horses and tandem axle

schoschi06
3 years ago
Reply to  peterobm

That’s good for me until 14T.

AlterHaudegen75
3 years ago
Reply to  schoschi06

These are not “only” 12 tons that are used with the C1E as a brace or Vehicle combination is allowed? With 14 tons, according to the new EU Guideline, I have no knowledge of anything or I have managed to ignore it. I also don’t know that as an acquis.

peterobm
3 years ago
Reply to  schoschi06

the good old 3rd – C1E and the

how was that, 1.5 times as a hit weight

peterobm
3 years ago

I didn’t know until the moment.

AlterHaudegen75
3 years ago

Learned again…. Thank you for the clarification….

peterobm
3 years ago

only with the old stock of the 3er –

when exchanged, the CE had to be applied for extra – then registered in the FS >12000kg L 3

up to the 50th century, an oeuvre had to be completed – because of the acquis. was not done, eat away at the next exchange.

AlterHaudegen75
3 years ago

Honestly, I’ve got all the license classes except for Class D, but that seems to have marched past me…. But now, if it should be.

peterobm
3 years ago

you forgot the towing vehicle with 7.5T – that was added

peterobm
3 years ago

that was the case with C CE, >12000kg and the number of axles L2 was limited, for example.

from a certain age (50) without AU, the person falls and is no longer registered in exchange.

schoschi06
3 years ago

If I had Googlen (79.06 ), there was a change at some point that stole a few bucks from me!

I am not interested, however, because I also have CE, DE! 🙂

AlterHaudegen75
3 years ago

And 7.5 x 1.5 are 11.25…..

schoschi06
3 years ago

7.5Tx1.5!

schoschi06
3 years ago

Inclusive MLT, 125ccm motorcycle and Mofa without Fs. 🙂

AlterHaudegen75
3 years ago

If you have the financial possibilities for this, I would actually recommend that. At least if you really come into embarrassment to want to pull bigger and heavier followers or possibly have to. The answer from *peterobm* fits perfectly in this connection.

AlterHaudegen75
3 years ago
Reply to  Girl1234863

Then it would indeed be quite useful if the combination of towing vehicle and camper weighs more than 3.5 tonnes. And they crossed them quickly with a caravan.

peterobm
3 years ago
Reply to  Girl1234863

then it is definitely worth it.

bedenke – the towing vehicle decides that a towing load is entered which must not exceed

permissible total train weight would then be 3.5T for 7T – towing vehicle and trailer 3.5T 🙂

PatrikoseNo1
3 years ago

Well, everyone has to know that for themselves. For example, I’ll make it the next, just because I can use it professionally and privately. Didn’t miss him yet and came without “just”

wollyuno
3 years ago

I think he is good.no matter if you need him in the call or only private.so can pull what the car allows without great consideration I or not

KaePie
3 years ago

I just had it. Class three at that time. 7,5t plus pendant.

So a little more than C1E.

And because my driver was so old, I got the professional driver qualification on top of it for free.

It only needs to make the modules every 5 years.

RoadRage3
3 years ago

Hello,

is it for you the predictable if you’ll drive a trailer for the next few years? e.g. from work, private or associations?

If no, it’s not worth it. If so, it’s worth it sooner or later. Otherwise, I would save my money.

Ben

peterobm
3 years ago
Reply to  Girl1234863

in the case the A would be of great advantage, more customers

schoschi06
3 years ago

You can also drive with B small trailers (up to 750kg ) !

olfinger
3 years ago
Reply to  schoschi06

That’s so wrong.

With a vehicle weighing 3.5t, a trailer may be carried with a maximum of 750kg (incl. loading). The “small 750s” may be attached to any car that has a suitable device for this -> a trailer coupling.

If, however, a vehicle with 2.0 t is used, it is also possible to attach 1.5 t. So on the bottom line so much until you get to a zGG of 3.5t. Everything about it is out of the FE Kl. B.

Only the small trailer up to 750kg may be attached to each car, that is also the reason why in many construction markets these small trailers are borrowed. These trailers do not have to pay much attention, except that the vehicle is able to pull this trailer.

Simply put: The combination must not exceed 3.5t, except here the small trailer forms up to 750kg, which can always be driven at Kl. B.

However, in order to have the possibility to drive a larger trailer there is the key number B96 with which you can extend the number B.

This is the “Holländer” among the FE classes and allows a general combination up to a maximum of 4.250kg. Means that a vehicle combination can be up to 4.250kg without being bound to the zGG of 3.5t. This key number is for all those interesting who draw a trailer behind it and was first and foremost introduced.

The Kl. BE expands the whole a little and allows – theoretically – a zG of 7t. Here, however, it applies that the towing vehicle may have a maximum of 3.5 t, but the trailer may also have a maximum of 3.5 t. So in total a maximum of 7t weight.

If the towing vehicle has a weight of 2t, it is allowed to attach 3.5t and then has a total weight of 5.5t. Theoretically, 1.5 tons remain open, but must not be driven because the trailer is also limited to 3.5 tons.

In brief:

  • Kl. B allows trains up to a maximum of 3.5t. The exception here is the small trailer up to 750kg, which can always be carried along.
  • SZ B96 allows a total weight of 4.250kg
  • Kl. BE allows a train up to 7t, with each vehicle and trailers allowed to have a maximum of 3.5t.

In other words, you can also drive larger trailers with Kl. B as long as the total weight of 3.5t is not exceeded. The small trailer can be excluded, it can always be carried on a car.

Only one vehicle is required which may also draw the respective weights.

AlterHaudegen75
3 years ago
Reply to  olfinger

That’s what I know….

schoschi06
3 years ago
Reply to  olfinger

Then E is really pointless when you drive the lobster of Papa!

olfinger
3 years ago

The BE is therefore not useless, quite on the contrary, especially for the lobster you mentioned as an example, the BE is of advantage (provided he has retrofitted a trailer coupling).

In my knowledge, the lobster H2 has a permissible trailer load of 2.5t, so this allows to attach a trailer with a total weight of up to 2.5t.

With Kl. B you can’t drive this, with the key number B96 also not. In this example, the FE Kl. BE is therefore necessary.

2,9t vehicle weight + 2,5t trailer weight = 5.4t total weight. B allows only up to 3.5t (exception of the small 750kg trailer), B96 allows only up to 4.250kg. This makes Kl. BE sensible.