Advanced comma usage rules as an adult?
Where can I find advanced rules for comma placement? I notice that my comma placement is very uncertain in complex, nested sentences. I don't really know the rules.
However, the internet only offers content for children and students that covers the basics: relative clauses, lists, insertions, and the like.
What I also haven't understood yet: sometimes a comma can come before "and" or "or." But under what conditions?
Perhaps you can give me some rules or tips for these possibly incorrectly placed commas that I can also transfer to other sentences:
Example 1
Just a quick moment of pulling yourself together, a bold right-handed grip would be enough and it would be over, at least hopefully.
Example 2
The change in rhythm from a thrashing, aggressive style to a different, more subtle style of playing threw me for a moment.
Example 3
Using a pocket-sized fire steel and spirit, as well as some cardboard boxes borrowed from the waste paper, it was easy to get the compact grill up and running.
Example 4
However, depending on the position of the revolver and the caliber, the method was not reliable enough.
Example 5 – that's what interests me most , especially how it would be without a dash and just with commas.
What I expected was silence, but all I heard was more screaming piercing my ear canals, accompanied by howls of panic and the clatter of broken glass—not from a hit, but from shock.
I am also interested in the definitions of these punctuation marks:
- comma,
- Bullet point; (When is a semicolon better than a period or comma)
- Bullet point – (can I make every insertion with a comma or bullet point? Or are there rules)
- Colon : (when do I announce something with a comma, dash or colon)
It is about punctuation in the sense of a publication in fiction.
I would like a potential editor to identify fewer punctuation errors in my work.
Thanks!
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Advanced rules of commutation? Presumably, you mean comma rules for advanced people (which do not exist).
There are only 48 (!!) different comma rules that you can buy in any school book publisher and/or in any bookshop.
The terrible DUDEN is likely to be more irritating than helpful….
That’s enough.
(pk, had been German teacher for 42 years, for about 40 years)
“A comma can be set before “wagon”? ‘
Really? Then it would be: and it would be
I do not think it makes sense.
And 5. is right or what do you say as a teacher?
SORRYYYY! After “out”, before “and” KANN….
To point 5: That’s enough.
I’ve been researching these works now and I’ve encountered this:
https://www.cornelsen.de/products/duden-ratgeber-komma-punkt-und-alle-anderen-satzzeichen-3-Updated-und-ueverworkete-suspension-das-handbuch-marking-handbook-with-many sample-and-overview tables-9783411744930
Other works are also recommended here to improve the expression in German:
https://www.kerstinschuster.de/5-nachschlagswerke-furs-homeoffice/
And when reading is a myth, what are predictors for good school notes in German? Is it really talent or practice?
Thank you very much!
I say it in my own modesty SO: for 42 years I was a German teacher (until I was 69 (!!) years old) and led whole pupil generations to Abi. In the case of Klausur-Korrekturen, colleagues often approached me – mostly with quite complex orthographic and inter-pointion questions.
My head of school had her letters of authority read by me correction….
The myth of many private readings as said predictor is as insane as it is inexorable. The same applies to PC spelling programs.
By the way, I was NOT a editor through my “application”, but publishers of various genres came to me.
That’s it!
Thank you!
Are there any other tools and tools that help someone write a perfect aka script-ready text (on computer) or how to improve to make less mistakes?
And is the myth that private reading (in books) is the largest predicate for good German notes in primary and secondary education (1, no idea whether all this is relative to secondary level 2)?
You’ve earned the star anyway, thank you.
I assure you that the variety of corresponding reference works will irritate you rather than help, as it often contradicts / contradicts (all when I think of Adverbial-NS….) : – ((.
I usually prefer learning and teaching aids from the school book publishers CORNELSEN and KLETT.
Thank you, just a short demand:
Are there certain standard works or titles you like to use? I would really like to buy such a reference book. Just when these 48 rules are explained somewhere.
So I don’t quite know, but there’s something like Eben’s “commission rules” of [the author’s last name], [the author’s first name] that was published somewhere?
I answered four points and have a private life next to GF.
No cause!
Presumably, the sentence is far too overdimensioned, and each editor would strike with the hint “delay in shorter sentences”.
What do you mean, “that must be enough”? That you don’t want to give an answer?
In the Duden.
https://search.app?link=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.duden.de%2Flanguage knowledge%2Fkomma&utm_campaign=aga&utm_source=agsadl2%2Csh%2Fx%2Fgs%2Fm2%2F4
I wouldn’t forgive the asterisk so fast.
At 2., the first comma is up to date.
And 5., who cares most about you, he hasn’t even answered the asterisk.
If
shows that the questioner himself does not read the answers correctly — and that is why I do not have the trouble to answer your many other questions that have not been answered.
Besides, what kind of editor? Either he can do that, then he can do it with the left, or he has weaknesses…
I’m sorry, but I didn’t expect any more answers, especially with such extensive posts, after the day when you asked it, the contribution was usually forgotten.
In addition, there was a hint that I could get reference works for school book publishers. there is enough for me.
Good question should change its rule that you cannot forgive the most helpful answers to someone else if something new, helpful comes.
I had waited for weeks in the other case, and people complained that I had not given the most helpful answer at the time…
In the end, it’s just a virtual star…