Does the job center only reimburse travel expenses for the cheapest means of transport?
Hello, I am currently undergoing retraining and have been reimbursed for a €49 ticket for a year. I always drove to the neighboring village, about 3km away, and then took the train from there to my company.
We have to complete an internship for our retraining. Now I drive all the time, and my clerk asks if the car is necessary, since the position is accessible by public transport, right? According to the timetable, it's 25km, with a scheduled arrival time of 6:41 a.m. (planned arrival time is 7:49 a.m., duration: 1 hour, 8 minutes, 2 transfers). And 4:26 p.m. (planned arrival time is 5:15 p.m., duration: 49 minutes, 2 transfers). Is this a joke?
We have people from the DRV (German Public Transport Association) who have zero problems with travel expenses. Am I forced to take public transport, which is never on time anyway? I have responsibilities during my internship, and I can't just show up late. What time should I leave? Ideally, an hour earlier?
My caseworker is making me angry and I want to know where this arbitrariness comes from. Other people got their education voucher just like that, I had to fight for it and now the same thing happens with the costs. Are there any laws about this?
Do I have to use public transport? Can I drive? I need help!
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A pendulum period of up to 3 hours from 6 hours a day is still reasonable, i.e. for the way back and forth.
Do you have to see if you come to more than 3 hours on a train earlier, if yes, it would no longer be reasonable and then the costs would also have to be recognized with your own vehicle.
Jep, the 1.5h per way were also told to me, but at the end the decision was still with my SB and this one has promised me a cost increase. I can’t evaluate how exactly this is internally justified or not. I was also not told that they had to work under a law or not, but merely that they were oriented towards the indicative value of 1.5 h.
These are indicative values and not chiseled in stone, there is almost always a discretionary margin.
Should be regulated at the Employment Agency in Paragraf 140 SGB – lll reasonable employment and if I am not mistaken at the Civil Money under SGB – ll from the Jobcenter in Paragraf 10 SGB – ll.
Thank you for your star!
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A very good comment, then in SGB – II under 3.3 Removed place of employment I could find the exact reference to what is right and what is not, (3) In accordance with § 140 SGB III, the distance between the place of residence and the place of work is generally reasonable when assessing the reasonable pendulum times. Pendulum times are common if they are not only isolated, but are more extensive. As you have said, as a rule, there are also indicative values, and it is also rightly an individual decision, thank you for the clarification!
Just apply for a passenger car and wait for the job centre’s paper-writing decision.
As long as my school path as a student at the Gymnasium was also twice as long. In summer I drove a bike, 12 km a ride. I didn’t think so.
Welcome (back) in professional life. the problem of road costs and TIME has also been found by any other working person. Why this is supposed to be taken into account by the ones now would be a mystery to me.
Your decision whether to buy your life time at your own expense or not. The same dilemma has almost everyone else.
I can’t buy anything back at my own expense as I get less with the public money than in a regular training in the industry.
After all, you’ll get money. I don’t miss you anywhere, on the contrary.
But somewhere there must be equal right for everyone. Either it is (for all) reasonable to put so much free time in the way of work or not.
Why should those who already support you and and optionally have expensive or long-term paths, then get up (must) to get the shortest way financed?
In other words, why is DEINE’s lifetime worth more than those of others who are supposed to finance it? Not bad but honestly meant question.
You can believe what you want? Where’s your bill for the job center? Apparently, there’s no… it’s been decided individually with me. Thanks for the conversation, I really feel insulted, but that doesn’t change anything that matches the truth.
P.S. if it helps you, I will be happy to provide you with extracts and something in writing.
siiiicher. Now that you are insulted because in this question not everyone stands behind you suddenly came the call that suddenly came after all the weeks you are right. Who believes. Have fun on the train
I’m not. However, if the topic has been resolved, a call came in after I wrote this noon that it is not reasonable for me, then it was decided that it would be possible to refund the car costs, even if I don’t know why this question came at all after a month and not before or at all, but that is decided as much individual and not “equal” as you say I don’t think so well. One must always demand and some have it better or worse, although the claim should actually be regulated, to good or bad.
your comparison that every way is supposed to be equally reasonable for everyone, as someone with disabilities can run less far than anyone without, with otherwise identical conditions.
Are you disabled? Then you should have written that. You didn’t. Logically, I couldn’t relate to it. Then just write what you want out next time.
There is no equal right for all but only regulations for X Y Z, your comparison that every way should be equally reasonable for everyone, just as someone with disabilities can run less far than anyone without, in otherwise identical conditions. And for me, this path is not reasonable and what I have found so far on legal grounds is again an individual decision by a specialist so that your whole “for all” is reasonable or not relentless and since no one has helped me so far even the whole subject unnecessary. As I hate individual choices, so I guess that’s why I don’t like all of my SB except me.
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such comments make no sense, because I could just ask why every person who is 10cm larger than I statistically has the right to earn X€ more …, it is about regulations and not deserved or not deserved because there is no justice, it does not seem fair to me that I have to pay a glasses with 5,75 dioptrin on which I am dependent because I can do without anything while other costs are not being taken over by the health insurance company.
This must be done by many workers every day.
Why would someone pay you for this?
You have to make sure that you appear on time at work (by the way, it is also quite normal in the working world). So you know in advance that the train likes to be late, you have to take an earlier train.
What you describe is for many normal everyday life. In general, many employees complain about performance when they are now suddenly supposed to do something that is completely normal. For example, to finance his life himself from the money you deserve.
If I would get the regular money of an azubis, I could understand your comment only I don’t!
You still get money from the office, like rent, etc., or who’s up to date for your living?
I hadn’t found that with my age, so I’m doing retraining? You’re pretending everyone’s doing a job where you get 5000€ for nothing, where is this job? I’ll take him! Do you think I didn’t send any applications? There is one reason why an educational voucher is made, because the prerequisites are, however, not the possibility of mediation. You think I just got this? I had financed my living from what I got, I had even after first training and 2 years of work in the profession 30000€ on the side, but after the work mentally broke me, the money was very fast away, especially because the cost of health insurance etc. are relatively high even if you don’t deserve anything. Back to Topic: As mentioned before, I wanted to make an education, no retraining, do you think I’m looking for an education if I couldn’t finance the cost of rent with this? ding ding ding! Of course, I’m so stupid, and I wouldn’t think of anything like that… I found the comment at least funny. Since I live with my brother I pay much less rent than normal and I live in the country what makes it cheaper again. Thus, my calculations would have been much better for me after a training with a housing allowance. where there is something and there is not even the pension I lose in the 2 years.
Then you get training money and get away from the office. Consider that you have to pay the rent yourself.
I’m out of here.
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same.
So you live from the office and make a retraining that pays you the office and get money from the office for your living and complain that you get less?
Then you get training money and get away from the office. Consider that you have to pay the rent yourself.
I’m out of here.
This is correct, but is that below what I would earn as an apprentice, or do you get 563€ in the IT industry?
Work paths up to 1.5 hours per way are reasonable.
So if you’re on the way with the open under an hour, it’s completely within the frame.
In addition, the way of work and also the expenses for this are in Germany the employee.
Ergo in my eyes you can look forward to every cent grant.
In fact, I was also told that these 1.5 hours, based on the guidance line at the Employment Agency, also result in the job centre, but there are only possible as a guide to the deviation, so the only meaningful contribution! Thank you.
I drive to work 60 minutes a day – per tour. Big city, that’s normal.
Must change 2x at the moment, otherwise 1x.
The state pays only for the most necessary, not for convenience.
Sure you can drive. There’s no reason why others should pay you for your car driving.
You can take the PNV, he’ll be refunded to you. If this takes too long, you can drive at your own expense. Your decision.
Didn’t read all the text, as he did little to the question.
If it is reasonable that the path to the educational establishment can also be deposited on foot, however, there is no cost of travel.
And yes, there is a law on services according to SGB II.
Even if you don’t like it. Each individual “case/application” is checked individually.
If that’s your basic attitude when talking at JobCenter, I won’t be surprised.
It doesn’t matter whether public or private. And you can get a refund if it goes to work from tax deduction. But can you also let a lawyer advise you on the subject
What tax… I only have civil money
I didn’t have this information yet should be enough to pay D-ticket
It’s not about the D-ticket, it seems that it was just the D-ticket and not the car that should be paid, but what has now been done after a conversation.
No, it’s not.
Exactly. It’s quite reasonable.
No
No one forbids you