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BackupBone
3 years ago

No.

The ZX6R was not necessarily often seen in the driver’s camps of the private racing trainings. Due to the R6 Cup, the standard 600 was more the R6 or because of the ABS the CBR600RR.

With the 636 versions you could not participate in the 600s. The ZX6RR

verreisterNutzer
3 years ago
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R6 because she was driven in the R6 Cup?

CBR600RR because she had ABS?

That doesn’t sound like statements from someone whose hobby are motorcycle races.

BackupBone
3 years ago

That doesn’t sound like statements from someone whose hobby are motorcycle races

Why not?

verreisterNutzer
3 years ago

Yes so fits ^^

BackupBone
3 years ago

Road driver wants 600. Buys one with Abs, due to the appropriate advantage on the road.

I want to go on track. Cbr600 was bought for Abs and is seen by me in the driver’s camp. I wonder why CBR? Driver says about Abs on the road. Got it? If it’s not mine

verreisterNutzer
3 years ago

I never drove the Honda CBR600RR.

That’s the point. You realize that the one ABS has installed other than ne new Duke690 or not?

You can’t argue for the racetrack use of the old PC40 of 2009 by simply drawing the characteristics of a clearly modern ABS.

These are two different systems. And of course, modern ABS systems are also functional on the race track.

BackupBone
3 years ago

So. It’s impossible to block in dry weather, but in the rain you brake so hard that the regulator is no longer clear with the pressure? Yeah.

Sure. In drying, they didn’t have to regulate because the tire had enough grip. In the rain, the adhesion to the tires used by me then is much less. And the subsequently installed Brembo RCS19 was far too strong for the ABS system of my duke in the border area.

As if it weren’t already nuts enough, it’s even more skuriller by the fact that the brake pump at the Honda is not connected to the pliers and the controller cannot be overwhelmed.

I never drove the Honda CBR600RR. I’m out of here. My statements with any assumptions to “dispute” are too stupid.

So, come to me all beautifully Spanish before what you’re talking about your racing adventures.

Well, that’s not just what happens to the regular table. And the technique doesn’t always do what is expected of her.

verreisterNutzer
3 years ago

At ner Duke 690, the center of gravity is so high that it strikes before a slick blocks.

Well, if you’ve already tested it.

Doesn’t surprise me any more than the PC40 that goes up in the back even though it has a Rear-Lift-Off-Protection and the regulator actually takes away the brake pressure when it rises.

A tire can also block with Abs if the pressure is greater than the control range.

So. It’s impossible to block in dry weather, but in the rain you brake so hard that the regulator is no longer clear with the pressure? Yeah.

As if it weren’t already nuts enough, it’s even more skuriller by the fact that the brake pump at the Honda is not connected to the pliers and the controller cannot be overwhelmed. In the C-ABS of the PC40, the brake pump controls only the Valve unit which sends a signal to the ECU. The signal in turn processes the brake pliers. There is therefore no direct connection zw. Brake pump and pliers. So you can push around like you want, there’s nothing the ECU doesn’t want. So it’s called “Brake-by-Wire.”

So, come to me all beautifully Spanish before what you’re talking about your racing adventures.

BackupBone
3 years ago

At ner Duke 690, the center of gravity is so high that it strikes before a slick blocks. Unless you drive on the socius seat.

Jupp. A tire can also block with Abs if the pressure is greater than the control range. Larger brake pump and so…

verreisterNutzer
3 years ago

You can’t block my slicks in the dry so that the ABS would have to be regulated (I never braked my hair), you’ll be beaten before.

There is no tire that doesn’t block because it has too much grip. But even if there was such a magic click, it would be an argument against ABS.

In the rain, I even had to catch a front wheel, which is blocking the shaking, in Oschersleben.

Block with ABS? Interesting.

BackupBone
3 years ago

You can’t block my slicks in the dry so that the ABS would have to be regulated (I never braked my hair), you’ll be beaten before. In the rain, I even had to catch a front wheel, which is blocking the shaking, in Oschersleben. This vibrating in the brake lever was the pre-warning in the rain.

verreisterNutzer
3 years ago

I agree that we say there are a few road drivers who have ABS. In racing track cutting or in instructor trainings. And I also don’t want to rule out that Speer once told an instructor that he could calm down the ABS.

But there will be no one who buys ne CBR600RRR because of the ABS or recommends for the race track. Also not in the amateur area. And so your sentence sounded:

Due to the R6 Cup, the standard 600 was more the R6 or
due to ABS the CBR600RR.

It has been used despite the ABS, you should say a lot more.

I was 6-7x a year on the route and never noticed the abs in the dry.

Then you don’t notice the rules. Someone who travels 6-7 days a year on race tracks can also get to the ABS control area on the straight line. There are driving instructors who want to see this before registering one for examination.

BackupBone
3 years ago

You said for the race track many would have bought the CBR600RR

I didn’t. I said the ones used their CBR bought for the street also on the way.(“And there havemanytheir street crates”)

Also makes for someone of 2-3 racing trainings a year, this is completely useless and makes significantly slower

I was 6-7x a year on the route and never noticed the abs in the dry one. (except the first time when the still raised pilot power overheated)

verreisterNutzer
3 years ago

You said for the race track many bought the CBR600RRR because it has ABS. The ABS of these bikes was completely unusable for racing track applications. Also makes for someone of 2-3 racing trainings a year, this is completely useless and makes significantly slower.

BackupBone
3 years ago

The ABS light came in 2016 at the time also had all 600 ABS. So you have to talk about the time before.

I mean the time of 2010-2017.

Before 2013, all ABS were completely unusable for any hobby racer who could drive a bit.

Not on the street, and for that, things were actually bought once.

A PC40 purchased for motorsport from this time with ABS, you will not find.

Nothing else I wrote (“And if someone had a full-blooded iron, it was mostly the R6”)

“Even today you find ABS very rare at 600cc.”

Because no more 600 SSPs are developed. The class is dead.

“Profis do not use ABS until today. No one.”

What do you want with professionals all the time? I wonder what this is? Here I tell you my observations and conversations with the riders at Speer, Prospeed and KM Training events, and no longer. What you have heard or read does not contradict my…

verreisterNutzer
3 years ago

What time?

The ABS light came in 2016 at the time also had all 600 ABS. So you have to talk about the time before.

Honda has installed ABS standard at the CBR600RRR (PC40, from 2009). So you have to say that, right?

Before 2013, all ABS were completely unusable for any hobby racer who could drive a bit. Only with the curve-ABS could one think about the use.

What is in the old PC40s is completely unusable on the race track. Whether rain or not.

I was talking about racing training. Hobbies and amateur events.

It would not have bought a hobby racer because of the ABS ne CBR600RR.

The only thing you can have seen in active ABS systems at the time were road drivers who made their first crabble tests on racing tracks with their road bike.

A PC40 purchased for motorsport from this time with ABS, you will not find.

Even today you find ABS at 600cc very rare, although the modern curve ABS are actually usable for average hobby racers. Professionals do not yet use ABS. No one.

BackupBone
3 years ago

Because no one used ABS at that time. No one.

What time?

And you’re telling me the racers bought all ne CBR600RRR because she has ABS?

No, I didn’t.

I was talking about racing training. Hobbies and amateur events. And there many their street crates. Including me. Especially in the rain, ABS has provided good services. With the Slicks, however, the ABS has never hit me. The new systems are really good.

And if someone had a full-blooded iron, it was usually the R6.

verreisterNutzer
3 years ago

Because no one used ABS at that time. No one. Arne Tode was one of the first IDM professionals who had a bike with ABS. He disassembled without testing.

And you’re telling me the racers bought all ne CBR600RRR because she has ABS?

archibaldesel
3 years ago

No – Next question please…

verreisterNutzer
3 years ago

No, never possessed.