Erwachsene Tochter raubt uns den letzten Nerv – was tun?

Hallo liebe Community,

es geht um unsere erwachsene Tochter (19 Jahre), wir wissen nicht wie wir noch reagieren sollen oder mit der Situation umgehen sollen. Ich schreibe vorab mal kurz wie hier unsere Umstände sind. Mein Mann und ich sind beide in den vierzigern, haben noch zwei weitere Kinder, einen Teenager und eine kurz davor, wir haben ein Haus, Garten, Haustiere, alles recht gewöhnlich. Wir gehen beide mehr als Vollzeit arbeiten. Ich 42 – 48 Std pro Woche, mein Mann 46 – 52 pro Woche. Eigentlich läuft alles recht rund, die Kinder kommen in der Schule klar, haben ein gutes soziales Umfeld usw.
Die große Tochter tanzte schon immer etwas aus der Reihe, aber es war nie problematisch, Pubertät war sehr anstregend, aber das ist ja auch normal.

Nun ist es so, dass sie sich mit ihren 19 Jahren zwar absolute Freiheit rausnimmt, was auch ok ist, aber hier zu Hause, sie wohnt noch bei uns, haust wie eine 3jährige. Wäsche wird nicht gewaschen, es wird nicht hinter sich aufgeräumt, alles bleibt stehen und liegen, von ihrem Zimmer brauchen wir gar nicht sprechen. Es stehen Essensrest rum, auch gerne so lange, dass sich dort kleine Tierchen ein Heim “bauen”.

Am Freitag war es mal wieder so weit, dass ich ihr gesagt habe, wenn sie jetzt nicht mal ihr Zimmer aufräumt, dass ich es dann mache. Schon wieder. WIr hatten diese Situation schon mehrfach, dass ich an meinem einzigen freien Tag in der Woche ihr Zimmer aufräume was immer mehrere Stunden dauert, weil es dementsprechend aussieht. Sie geht nicht zur Schule und arbeitet nur 10 Stunden pro Woche in einem Nebenjob. Sonst macht sie nichts, ausser feiern und sich mit Freunden treffen.
Das hat sie dann auch gemacht, sie hat an einem Tag sechs Maschinen Wäsche gewaschen, weil so viel dreckige Wäsche in ihrem Zimmer war. Dann ist sie los und war seitdem auch nicht mehr zu Hause.

Heute Vormittag habe ich eine Maschine Wäsche angestellt und unser mittleres Kind wollte seine Wäsche auch waschen, also habe ich das mittlere Kind gebeten die andere Waschmaschine zu nutzen, wir haben zwei Maschinen, da meinte das mittlere Kind, dass dort noch Wäsche drin sei, was es war und ob diese schon gewaschen ist, konnte es nicht beantworten. Ich öffnete die Maschine und bei dem Geruch wurd emir sofort klar, dass es Wäsche vom Freitag sein musste. Ich habe mich also um die Wäsche gekümmert und meine große Tochter angerufen um sie mal zu fragen was das denn eigentlich soll, denn selbstverständlich hing auch der ganze Keller voll mit ihrer Wäsche, die sich noch am Freitag aufgehängt hatte. Sie meinte nur, dass sie die Wäsche hat vergessen hat und sie sich kümmert wenn sie zu Hause ist, auf die Frage wann das denn wohl sei, sagte sie mir sehr genervt, dass wisse sie noch nicht und dann ist mir, sorry, schlichtweg der Arsch geplatzt. Ich habe ihr gesagt, dass sie zusehen soll, dass sie nach Hause kommt und sich um ihren “Scheiß” kümmern soll!

Ich bin so dermaßen genervt, mein Mann und ich bekommen uns schon in die Haare, weil er meint, es ist ja alles gar nicht so schlimm und er meint, man könne ja alles auch durch ein vernünftiges Gespräch klären. Die haben wir aber schon etliche Male geführt, ich kann nicht mehr zählen wie oft wir schon mit ihr gesprochen haben.
Versteht mich bitte nicht falsch, ich liebe meine Tochter wirklich sehr und sie war immer ein Kind um das man sich mehr kümmern musste als um die anderen beiden, aber ich kann echt nicht mehr. Mein Mann und ich arbeiten uns eckig und sie macht nichts, im Gegenteil, sie macht uns zusätzliche Arbeit, obwohl sie, abgesehen von den 10 Std pro Woche, nichts zu tun hat. Am liebsten wäre mir, wenn sie auszieht, aber ich bin mir sicher, dass sie dann vollends “unter die Räder” kommt. Ich bin echt einfach nur noch auf und durch. Was soll ich tun? Wie soll ich mit ihr reden? Wie soll ich ihr begreiflich machen, dass sie nicht in einem Hotel lebt, sondern bei einer Familie in der alle sich einrbingen müssen? Bei den anderen Kindern klappt das.

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sassenach4u
6 months ago

I would clearly put her an ultimatum, with demands that she has to fulfill, will remain with you:

  • Room clean, eaten not in the room but in the dining area/kitchen, max. Beverages may be there, but also to a limited extent (2-3V bottles), determine what they have to do.
  • Clear announcement: don’t do it, the last month is your last day in the house.
  • If she doesn’t, she doesn’t stop, then she asks to move out, she won’t leave to the family court

Sounds hard, but this is life, and yes, it can come under the wheels, but you and the rest of the family suffer and is that your goal: to let everyone suffer?

It would not be mine, and by the way, it worked very well with our son, who quickly noticed: Hotel parents have advantages that he wanted to use against “the little” contrast.

P.S. from this has become something great and today he is happy that we were so “hard and fies”.

Erdnussflocke
4 months ago
  1. Does your husband look into your daughter’s room when living creatures move in the food?
  2. does he see the blew she leaves?
  3. Do not leave behind, leave everything to stand and lie what causes them, really do not get behind. So he’ll see MUSS. And should it still not be bad, take him on his free day put him in your room and say, as it is not bad, she does not clean up, but we already have visitors in the house who feel very comfortable, I would say that you are clearing because she does not have to do it from your side. Otherwise you can wait for the residents to feel comfortable in your bed soon
  4. Showing consequences to your daughter and calmly
  5. Make a plan, write on what you expect from her as an adult in the household.
  6. Tell her that you work almost 5x as long as a month when she doesn’t see it and you don’t want it when she’s home that the house is ruined because she can’t clean up your stuff.
  7. Tell you, this is the last conversation that you have in the quiet, she wants to be grown up, then she should behave accordingly otherwise there are consequences that you do not fit, nor is she in your house and there are rules when she has her own apartment you can go to sleep without end and with your animals from me.
  8. And now to your daughter, she knows exactly how you feel, either yelling, yelling, yelling, maybe also dead…. but you end up doing your shit, and she knows that.
  9. Always recurring dispute about the same subject and constantly recurring the dirt itself is like a dispute between the spouses, which calms down again, was always so until now…. until the divorce comes, then the laundry is stupid.
  10. You have to stay hard there. I can say it out of experience, and yes my daughter has rubbed in your apartment, and that’s not much. The statement I was overwhelmed and I cleaned up there again. Not even plasterer had bought her more, Mama’s bringing. She sat on the couch with the cell phone and I made her dirty clean because I thought she would come otherwise “GANZ DONDER THE REGIONS”!!! there is also a good-natured mum of the collar. I put the plasterer, which I of course also brought along because their cleaning cloths are stanking – packed together, my cleaning agents do not leave as usual, but also packed, and put me in front of them. Can I interrupt you???? JAAAA what is there? Just wanted to tell you I’m done cleaning up in your apartment. She looks up, the head goes to the right and left, straight out into the kitchen where everything was done. Ready Mom? So I see a lot of work there. And that was really for me. Yes my love I also see a lot of work, but I think that you are my dear child, so overwhelmed with your mobile phone that I first announce the mobile phone contract (which also ran on us), all the other also what flows from us to money for you. You were your .. then I was verbally what I actually never or very rarely do…. damned, stinking ass up and clearing your dirt away, in the meantime when you were on the phone, I have my bred and made pictures of your dirt, I will show the family to your friends, and if it has to be expressing and hanging on your entrance door like every single tree. And the next 4 weeks, I don’t want to hear or see anything from you. Just in 4 weeks I’ll be back as long as I give you an order to bring you to your life. Otherwise I plant the trees with your pictures.
  11. I can tell you it was very violent, but I will never forget this face in my life.
  12. Turned me around and went out of the apartment without another word.
  13. Of course, I barely broke out in tears outside, it consumed me, I wanted to go back and forth, but I’ve been through. After 4 weeks I called them, there was really no contact between them – there was no WhatsApp:D and went to her. She didn’t have much time to clean up because we don’t live far from each other. And behold, when I arrived, she opened the door, something removed, the apartment clean and showed me before I even got a cup of coffee every corner and drawer. Mom, I love you and I get it. These were the most beautiful words she could tell me. And of course everyone has a different worldview of housing order. But as long as you can get to the apartment, there are no visitors, it doesn’t stink and you have to climb over mountains of accumulations, it’s okay. That was 16 years ago. Long story, and with my 3 others I started this mistake earlier, I didn’t make it like my grand. I hope you will find a way
jochilein
6 months ago

What would piss me off as a parent is the fact that she doesn’t do anything. She doesn’t start with her life, no education and no studies. She can’t live forever from a side job. If she does something, so she continues to train, the thing with the household is usually done by herself. As an example: My cousin is 19 and also lives at home and works in a side job. However, only until October, because there is the beginning of the semester and she moves to another city to study. If your daughter starts to make more of her life, that will certainly be done very quickly by itself.

Gorkon193
6 months ago

Well, there are so many families who have the same problems and no plan to solve it. But if your husband thinks it wouldn’t be bad if you had your only day off with your backs, etc. must sacrifice (this is really the Ar schl och number instead of supports, which is the daughter quite similar?) then he can do instead of your, the conversation with the daughter as well. Just leave ES and get out of such a situation. Ev. take with the smaller kids and get into relatives/friends? If you want to change, you need to do something different and not play along.

Why doesn’t the daughter learn a job? I can’t.

Relatives of me then threw out the sowed son on his “Wunsch”, he said, Give me money and I’m gone….jo, maintenance. He then repeatedly calculated what you can do and what you shouldn’t do better or otherwise he said about. 20 J. the horns need to bump. Today, even if he’ll never see anything.

Gorkon193
6 months ago
Reply to  Soraja78

Thanks for your clarification, the problem I understand better now AND WO is actually coming here. Then it’s your man who has to change something….vll. can you make it clear to him in a quiet moment and with cotton balls…?! because SO can’t go any further. In my acquaintance there have been two or three families, and unfortunately the family aid from the Youth Office has not been able to do anything.

Gorkon193
6 months ago
Reply to  Soraja78

Oh, I’m just gonna… then she learns something else. This disease is really well under control today. I had once in the office with E., from time to time he had stepped away for a minute, more was not there.E. is thunderstorm and confusion in the head…..so she must get clear to ask the doctor where there is support.

McMay
5 months ago

You radiate a real hate to your big daughter. My applause, it’s been a long time. Maybe get to know the needs of the child? You are more proud of your working hours of over 50 hours a week. You know what? I don’t believe in matter, but in love. And whoever talks about his child, I’m really sorry.