eBay?

Hello,

I saw an offer on eBay today – Sony PS5 Blu-Ray Edition original packaging.

The bid is 291.00 euros

The detailed description states that this is only the original packaging. I'm just curious if the highest bidder can request a refund after receiving the item. I mean, if the bidders don't read the description, then the purchase is legally acceptable. What I don't understand is why the seller doesn't clarify this.

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haikoko
1 year ago
Reply to  haikoko

What's more, this fraudulent seller creates false impressions with a starting price of EUR 29.00:

https://www.ebay.de/bfl/viewbids/155808720793?item=155808720793&rt=nc&_trksid=p3458402.m145235.l2565

I won't report anything. I'd rather have civil lawsuits and claims be filed.

M111evo
1 year ago

I'm just wondering if the highest bidder can get his money back after receiving the item.

No.

He can open a buyer protection case , which eBay will then decide on .

And then it depends on the category in which the retailer has placed the packaging.

What I don't understand is that the seller doesn't clarify it.

That's what he does:

The exact description states that this is only the original packaging .

And a Biter should be able to read.

picasso22
1 year ago
Reply to  Speedy100269

But that is their problem.

GelberJaguarX18
1 year ago

Oh well ,

You should read more than just the first small section of a product description…

Since many (but not all) people are becoming increasingly lazy and also increasingly inattentive, it is one's own fault if one is ultimately too lazy to read only the first of 2-3 short sentences, or perhaps not even the first one…

ronnyarmin
1 year ago

Too bad you didn't include the link. But I found the offer:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/155808720793?hash=item2446ec6799:g:ncgAAOSwejplHA0-&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAABAK65Byyz6kKG7UOZnVDISKaa7 ONJT9areteoceFSNv8o57I7gaAO3QcX1bos6YQn5jFX7JeUWS7culqqgDWtBagtw%2Fzs%2FCpS6oJL0TJa8u7j2cRuVHDwQTRUnrGG0C6nfN6qsStxdRfD3iE 4SVUW6Uy%2B0QgbjOMcMCW4kr85ADfqHHpC4S%2F08ahcgjCHutw7a6oIplNRdYC9vtSuNarOO7fk25QsqlisBqYQEuQCuA%2FxAPqrNB1Fz%2BHJE2TmLBSeF iWJ17WRyoctvPCxcfjAbSfePNiz2Il6SnJajpoCJF%2FQ%2BsL%2FTPCH1SJulQ%2FE%2FvzgZVDToIKBAt7h4%2Fm6XZVgB6Y%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBM9LPrm99i

The headline is ambiguous because it's misleading due to the words simply strung together. It should have been either "Sony PS5 Blu-Ray Edition with/in the original packaging " or "Original packaging for the Sony PS5 Blu-Ray Edition ."

The category is 'Consoles', so the PS5 should be offered.

The PS5 is listed under the item features, so it should be that again.

Only in the text does it say that only the packaging is offered.

Either the provider was too stupid to use understandable German, or he deliberately expressed himself ambiguously.

I would just be interested to know if the highest bidder can demand his money back after receiving

You can always do that. It's unknown how eBay would decide in this case.

M111evo
1 year ago
Reply to  ronnyarmin

Clearly wrong category, I've reported it. 😎

ronnyarmin
1 year ago
Reply to  M111evo

Mal sehen, was draus wird.

haikoko
1 year ago

Ach, vielleicht wird er zivilrechtlich verklagt,. Dem Vogel gönne ich jedes Urteil:

https://www.123recht.de/100h-Sozialarbeit-fuer-Leeren-Karton-__f59673.html

M111evo
1 year ago

Reviews are removed if no new positive ones are added within 12 months, which explains the terrible profile.

But you're right, transparency is something different.

ronnyarmin
1 year ago

Es geht um den Prozentsatz von 50%.

Das sind nur die Bewertungen der letzten 12 Monate. Insgesamt gibt es 35 Bewertungen. 34 positive, eine negative.

M111evo
1 year ago

It's about the percentage of 50% .

And eBay won’t be standing by much longer.

You know this one?

  • The percentage of positive feedback is calculated based on the total number of positive and negative feedbacks for transactions that ended in the last 12 months, less multiple feedbacks from the same member for purchases within a calendar week ( eBay timescales ).
  • Note: This means that the number of ratings used in this calculation may differ from the numbers shown in the table on the left.
  • Positive (Positive + Negative)
  • Ratings received by this member in the last 12 months
  • Positive: 1 Negative: 1
  • Percentage of positive reviews for this member
  • 1 / ( 1 + 1 ) = 50%
ronnyarmin
1 year ago

Well, it got 35 reviews, but the last one was bad.

By the way, I also find the way eBay displays the reviews bad. At first glance, you only see 7. After the username, there's 24, so he's received 24 reviews. If you click on 'all reviews received,' 35 are displayed.

eBay, what's that about?

M111evo
1 year ago
Nussbecher
1 year ago

The headline already says it's the packaging. Anyone willing to spend that much on it has only themselves to blame.

ronnyarmin
1 year ago
Reply to  Nussbecher

No. The headline also states that it's the PS5.

Nussbecher
1 year ago
Reply to  ronnyarmin

No, it says that this is the original packaging of the device.

ronnyarmin
1 year ago

Regarding the first part, I agree with you that it was expressed that way intentionally.

purely linguistically it is ok as it is written and in no way implies that it is the device itself

I see it differently.

Nussbecher
1 year ago

Yes, that would be perfect if it were written like that. But then people who can no longer understand, read, or write correctly wouldn't fall for it so easily.

We agree that the number is bad, but linguistically it is fine as it is and in no way implies that it is about the device itself.

ronnyarmin
1 year ago

If the packaging were meant, it would have to say 'Original packaging for PS5'.

Nussbecher
1 year ago

That's not right. Terms need to be read in context. That's why I find it so difficult when everyone reads and writes only in short, choppy terms and with incorrect terminology. This way, language is no longer perceived correctly.

The seller here is taking advantage of exactly that.

If a PS5 were meant, it would say "in original packaging" or "originally packaged".

ronnyarmin
1 year ago

Correct. It also says that it's the PS5. It doesn't say what the connection is between the two terms.