Do goldfish get along with turtles?
Good Morning,
I've had an aquarium with four goldfish for two weeks now: two with long fins and two regular goldfish. I have a filter and a heater. It's a 54-liter tank. The water parameters are fine, and the temperature is 23 degrees Celsius. I'd like to add two or three turtles. Is that possible? And if so, what kind do you recommend? A salesperson at the pet store told me that the goldfish needs to settle in first, and that the turtle shouldn't be added for a few months. Will it really take that long?
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There's no turtle you can hold in such a tiny pool. This would be animal cruelty, and this is what we see that the zoo trade is only thinking about turnover and not animal welfare.
In addition, the smaller water turtles like to eat fish 🙂
I think this pelvic size is absolutely normal, and there is no reason to be unfriendly. Not everyone is a full blood fish breeder with a 200l aquarium. How will they be held?
Best in the pond, which can grow up to 30 cm
If you think it's normal then why ask the question?
Even the smallest water turtles (mowl turtles) are 12-15 cm tall. Now consider which movement space the animal has in a basin of 60 x 30 cm? One step forward and three to the side…. This is animal cruelty!
On the one hand, the respondent was not unfriendly, especially hitting the nail on the head, on the other hand, a 200 liter tank is not really huge, because it comes mainly to the base area and, in addition, both types would produce so much "weak" that would require an oversized filter system!
In stretching from 200l…they are not so rare 🧐
By the way, the seller was very nice.
This is quite logical, because he wants to sell!
What does speed have to do with space? Of course, these animals also want to move, and so slowly do not swim turtles, after all they hunt fish…
In addition, the required space for a part of the land comes to the sun.
But turtles are slow? They don't need so much space, do they?
The turtles would be very happy about all the food you serve them.
Water turtles are very rare vegetarians.
This is clearly too small in the long term.
Goldfish usually reach a body length of 15-25 cm. So you would have to buy a significantly larger basin with a length of at least 150 cm later. Possibly with an intermediate step because the 54 l is already too small in a year when you feed well.
Maybe it would be best to start looking for a pond for the 4 now. Where they can come in from May. Or you'll get a bigger pool and do it in 2022.
No, for God's sake. No, no. This is only possible in very large paludariums/room ponds.
The zoo dealer sells irresponsibly, even for conditions of 20 years ago, this is no longer in the area of "zoo dealers stop to push eye". He'd probably sell a penguin for the bathtub.
I agree.
So they're just getting too big when I feed them a lot? Is there a kind of diet so that they only grow normally or stay a little smaller, like 10cm?
Hi.
Basically, yes, but it's not about too much. It's about normal vs. very little. And they have been fed for a long time, a kink in the growth curve makes ugly fish with too big heads.
Without experience, you can easily starve them. Normal fish holders try to get the fish as big as possible.
Please forget to find the fish in a pond.
You can't keep them at 60 cm that's illegal.
Are you serious? 😟 the poor animals 😔
Goldfish:
Max Size: 35 cm
Your lick: 60×30×30 cm, you notice??
Neither goldfish nor turtles deserve to be stuffed in such a "pickle jar".
Don't they adapt to the pool? That's what my neighbor told me. He's got gold fish in the aquarium. He said they're gonna be finger-long in the aquarium. Do you want me to have fewer feeds so they won't be so long?
Didn't you understand the answers?
No in serious goldfish are in principle subject to the same natural rules as we are. If smaller then remain because almost starved, living in a life-feeling toxic environment and are sick.
But as goldfish can grow very slowly and become very old, about 25 years they can still keep the winter with you, but at the latest in spring look for a man with garden pond that takes up the. Or someone who has at least one 350 l.
Then you can choose fish that better fit in there, here are those for your stretchy size that can also shorten the life time by 24.5 years in there.
https://mobil.aquarium-guide.de/pool1.htm
They do not fit the pelvic size and you should not feed less, because that doesn't bring you anything.
You have exactly two options:
1. You give off the fish to someone who owns a pond or an appropriately large aquarium.
or
Two. You'll get yourself a proper pelvic and heal it.
LG
Not all species are so big.
But
is more natural squeaky bullshit.
A person doesn't stay small either, just because you put him in a dog cabin.
Yes, that's why Max is standing in front of being able to get the maximum and the maximum is 35 cm. It does not automatically exclude which remain smaller 🤨
Depending probably on who you land, my selected "fishermen" can actually say that in my search, however, I have already encountered shops that had little expertise and also had no willingness to call the fishermen or look in the book.
I also worked in the animal accessories, since the online courses were voluntary, also the information for fish was actually correct, only it is voluntary 😐
Personally, I would now assume that those in the zoo store can say how big the species sold there is.
Or am I too optimistic?