Desktop Build oder Server Build?

Hi, kurz für einen Kontext. Ich bin aktuell Student und sicher mir daher sehr gern jeden Euro. Geld ist nicht wirklich viel da. Ich habe schon immer irgendwie mit alten gebrauchten PCs gearbeitet. Ich hatte mir vor einer Weile mal eine alte HP Z440 Workstation geholt, und bin mit dieser in die Welt der Server eingetreten. Jetzt kommt die Frage.

Ich möchte eine Desktop PC für mich bauen, und war mir schon ziemlich sicher was rein soll.

NZXT H5 Flow Case / B550 Mainboard / Ryzen 5 5600G oder GT, oder 5800X (in die Richtung eben) / 2x 8 GB Vengeance DDR4 3200 oder 3600.

Jetzt ist das Ding, dass ist natürlich nicht wirklich billig, grob überschlagen im Kopf wär ich da jetzt bei gut 350.

Für die Grafikkarte möchte ich so oder so eine Rx 6700 XT 12GB oder ähnliches. Das heißt, der PC build wäre bei gut 900€, was extrem viel Geld ist.

Jetzt habe ich viel rumgeschaut, weil ich auch schon immer interessiert war an Xeon CPUs und sogenanntem China Schrott. Und da gibt es wundervolle Bundles, von Maschinist Mainboard die das tun was sie sollen, einem Xeon 2680 V4 und 32GB DDR4 RAM. Für heruntergesetzt 90€. Da kommt man ins stutzen. Natürlich laufen die Xeon auf niedrigeren Frequenzen, die 2680 V4 hat aber zum Beispiel gar kein so riesigen Unterschied zu bekannten und beliebten I Desktop Prozessoren und macht den Rest vllt. mit 14K 28T wieder gut.

Jetzt ist die Frage, was bevorzugt ihr und warum?

Danke schonmal.

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sgt119
7 months ago

NZXT H5 Flow Case / B550 motherboard / Ryzen 5 5600G or GT, or 5800X (in the direction just) / 2x 8 GB Vengeance DDR4 3200 or 3600.

Now the thing is, of course, that is not really cheap, coarsely beat in my head, I would now be at good 350.

For the graphics card, I want a Rx 6700 XT 12GB or the like. That means the PC build would be at good 900€, which is extremely much money.

For 900€ there is much more power in it, you get easy ne RX 6800 and 32GB RAM under

https://geizhals.de/wishlists/2455624

Of course, the Xeon run on lower frequencies, which has 2680 V4 but for example has no such huge difference to known and popular I desktop processors and makes the rest vllt. with 14K 28T again good.

Things are actually only interesting for VMs where you really need dedicated CPU cores per VM. Otherwise very weak single-core performance and even if all cores can be used (renders e.g.) is not enough to make e.g. the Ryzen 5 5600 significant

1976ECO
7 months ago

Hello – for a stationary computer configuration (is called “desktop” in the foreign language), I recommend you:

  1. AMD RyzenTM 7 5800X3D Game Processor (supports only UDiMM’s: UDIMM – What is that? Simply explained – CHIP) – zpe (the “Central Processor Unit), the extra buffer (is called “cache” in the foreign language) as: “AMD 3D V-CacheTM Technology” (AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D: The 3D V cache in detail (pcgameshardware.de)) contributes to an average of 15% more performance in graphics-intensive programs (digital games count)! The one here: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D Processor Specifications | AMD, would probably be more optimal & supported “ECC” error correction. Current price: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D, 8C/16T, 3.00-4.10GHz, tray from € 183.85 (2024) | Price Comparison Geizhals Germany.
  2. As a memory for the zpe, this is: F4-3200C16D-32GIS – Overview – G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd. (gskill.com) optimal. The ZEN 3 AMD Ryzen of the 5000 Series processors support 100% or smoothly. The current price: G.Skill Aegis DIMM Kit 32GB, DDR4-3200, CL16-18-38 (F4-3200C16D-32GIS) from € 50,25 (2024) | Price Comparison Geizhals Germany. For example, if a program requires extra 16 gigabytes (plural) for itself in the recommended requirement, the installed 16GBs will no longer be sufficient! There it is necessary to cut off or since the working memory is the intermediate memory of the BS (operating system). The program will have to read more and load it into the memory. This also leads to delays or would it be the first bottleneck (is called “bottleneck” in the foreign language) of the system!
  3. As GraKa: XFX SPEEDSTER QICK 319 AMD RadeonTM RX 6750 XT Core Gaming Graphics Card with 12GB GDDR6 HDMI 3xDP, AMD RDNATM 2 (xfxforce.com) is recommended. It is even cheaper than the one: “RadeonTM RX 6700 XT Graphic Chips (amd.com)“. Current price: XFX Speedster QICK 319 Radeon RX 6750 XT Core Gaming from € 319.00 (2024) | Price Comparison Geizhals Germany. You can read that: RadeonTM RX 6750 XT Graphic Chips (amd.com).

Also links the main board (designated as “mainboard/motherboard” in the foreign language) with the B550 chipset. It wouldn’t be wrong.

Your dlr (service computer – is called “service computer” in the foreign language & is marketed as “server”) Processor: Intel Xeon Processor E52680 v4 35M Cache 2.40 GHz Product Specifications, is seen by intel You have the “Additional Information” there, no longer currently supported!

That with China, you should also link to see what’s happening.

Until the days.

The memory with the error correction (ECC), cost more: Memory with types: DDR4/DIMM/with ECC, Kit size: from 32GB, Single module size: 16GB, Memory clock from 3200MHz Price Comparison Geizhals Germany or are more expensive!

Flips100
7 months ago

https://www.heise.de/ratgeber/Bauvorschlag-fuer-unter-600-Euro-Guenstiger-Spielerechner-mit-sechs-CPU-Kernen-9226809.html

You can see if the bug is to be jammed.The parts should be cheaper than at the time.