Are you allowed to “filter” or push ahead at traffic lights on a scooter in the city?
Hi, are scooter riders (50 cm) allowed to overtake the line of cars waiting at the red light in the city to grab pole position.
Especially at times like these, southern temperatures sometimes prevail here and people don't want to wait in line for so long or are in a hurry.
I mean, ultimately, I'm not hindering any driver with my behavior because by the time the driver has managed to get into first gear, I'm long gone (I'm riding an e-scooter). Or does overtaking count as "endangering" other road users, even if I don't cause an accident, but rather approach as normal and at an appropriate speed?
What punishment could I expect if the police stop me? (Note: I'm still on probation)
Please no answers like "no, it's not allowed", I would prefer something with reasons.
thank you in advance
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Hello,
in principle, this is not allowed in Germany. But if there’s enough space, that doesn’t matter.
It’s important if you start thinking if that could still be done, then let it go.
I’ve been driving motorcycles myself for several years and never had problems. I’ve already filtered at traffic lights where a police car was, but as long as there’s enough space, nobody says anything.
Another small tip: Since you have a 50 roller, please limit the filtering only to the city. If you filter out off-site traffic lights, and then you’ll get all over again, it won’t hurt anyone.
Thank you for your answer. That’s what I hoped to read, and you’re right about the place. I’m just driving in town. But I have a question, what is your experience a good one between 0.5m or more 1m
Another question, even if I pass by the cars at a good distance and suddenly one in the snake stands more on the side where I drive (for example right) and it becomes narrow. If you stop in the middle of the snake, or don’t stop by any way from the beginning
Thank you again for your answer
If between your exterior mirrors and the exterior mirrors of the cars is still minimum 10-20cm free.
If it suddenly gets too tight or the traffic lights turn around before you are at the very front, then easily pull in between two cars and find the best look contact with the car behind the car so that it has seen you, then you will also be let in when you start driving.
😉
Thank you
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1-10km/h is a good approach. Anything faster is too dangerous. If you’re smarter, you have the risk that you’ll catch a mirror or that you’ll pull one over and you can’t brake it anymore.
One last question, how much km/h do you drive past the cars?
1-10km/h or faster
Since traffic lights are often full lines, this is already forbidden until the first car. Then it’s also forbidden because you don’t have enough distance to the traffic/cites
I find your reasons very good. Truly mega but one thing I have
These punishments can cost me money (if you see policemen see me) often even when I break someone’s mirrors, but I can’t imagine that I’m guilty of the person at the very front when the one goes off without notice that I’m standing in front of her car. Actually, the opposite because it must have seen me
Explicitly forbidden it is not.
However, you will not be able to maintain the StVO in some points, such as the right-handed, the lateral minimum distance or the avoidance of solid lines.
It is therefore practically forbidden. If anything happens, you have a significant partial debt.
if you pass right between the vehicles, that is the forbidden right-hand overtake!
Better leave it.
How about links?
This is also prohibited.
In the fine catalogue, the reason is named as follows:
In addition, the Commission’s proposal for a Directive on the approximation of the laws of the Member States relating to the approximation of the laws of the Member
https://www.bussgeldkatalog.org/ueberholen-im-kreuzungsbereich/
“small faster”… you don’t want to tell me you’re going to sneak through the standing vehicles with 20-30 Km/h!
If you like to pay €80, please. And if you pack “not adhered to with overtaking side distance” on it, there are already 110 €…
wtf of course I am faster than the overtaking 😂
He stands and has 0km/h on the tacho. So I’m not going back
At the next traffic lights you see each other again.
I wish you no one would open the vehicle doors when you come by.
If you drive at adjusted speed then even there will be very rarely a crash. And why to open the door in a queue and in the middle of a street 😅
😂
Swinging is prohibited in Germany.
Wishful thinking. The reality also looks different, even for you as an e-roller driver.
I drive car more than scooter and know how fast you usually drive by car but this is a different theme;)
You can drive your scooter 45. If the next traffic light is not exactly back in 50 meters, you will sooner or later become an obstacle, especially because the drivers feel challenged here. I know what I’m talking about and I’m driving a 125.
The 45 km/h is not due to the state. This applies not only to these small vehicles in Germany. Your 25 km/h are the bigger crap.
The fact is, you in Germany can’t do it, whether you get away fast enough or not. The only way you have legal would be to overtake the column to the left, only that is not possible anywhere.
I’m going to be an obstacle isn’t my problem if the state sucked at the point with the 45km/h. The fact is that I’m getting started faster. In the end, the driver can also meet a 50m later in front of him and then have to overtake him or go after him.