Corona vaccination?

Hi, I'm in the following situation: I'm infected with coronavirus for the third time now and have already received the vaccination twice, so I've been immunized five times in total. How can that be? My immune system always holds up against all the other diseases out there, but not against coronavirus. Does anyone else feel the same?

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Neuron123
6 months ago

With Covid 19, it is unfortunately so that there are many mutations, i.e. the immune system gets to know the proteins, but they change quickly so that new variants are no longer recognized so well. In addition, there were some mutations (I think since the Omikron variant), which make sure that the immune protection is still very short, so that you can quickly reconcile yourself. In the first variants, vaccinations have been significantly better protected and kept longer

Neuron123
6 months ago
Reply to  Kontrapunkt17

I guess you have a much more up-to-date version with the real virus at the moment, because the vaccinations always go a little behind because of the long period of admission and duration of production. But still, vaccinations help for a certain time (some weeks to a few months, as far as I know)

BBasti89M
6 months ago

if I let myself inoculate now, can I expect the new vaccine to be adapted to the current variant?

Because you have Corona at the moment, it’s too late for this option. Nevertheless, there would have been a chance to help. You can’t guarantee that.

Is there anyone?

Yes, because I get other diseases only rarely, but Corona got me out of Omikron.

in all other diseases that keep my immune system constant

that can be random if, for example, you have received few virus particles from the other.

I am now infected with Corona for the third time and have received 2 vaccination

I guess it could be due to the changes in the virus.

If you had 2 vaccinations, you were no longer well protected from fall/winter 2021, because you needed a 3rd vaccination in the delta variant that was then added. The protection of the first 2 vaccinations is also given against delta, but not very strong and it does not last long.

Even after the 3rd event (infection) you would be very little protected against the newer Omikron virus. Here, too, there is a short-term protection (I take an infection with Delta)

Then it wouldn’t be a miracle if the latest corona variant now infected you, because the protection doesn’t fit so much on the new mutation and that was otherwise long ago with the other infections.

Otherwise, it might make sense to talk to the doctor about your immune system, especially if it does not remain with the present infection.

diem235er
6 months ago

How susceptible to Covid depends on the ACE2 receptor, which is genetically conditioned. For example, in Asia there are higher infections than in Africa.

The mitochondria provide MAVS proteins. These signals to the immune system that it must react. Healthy mitochondria are therefore necessary for good immunity. However, the special feature of the Covid Spike Protein is that it affects the function of the mitochondria. This means that with each infection and with each vaccination, the mitochondria are loaded, which leads to fewer MAVS proteins being produced. Vaccination affects the health of mitochondria as well as an infection because the spike protein is the same.

So you should have your mitochondria checked. You are very likely also exhausted quickly compared to earlier?

diem235er
3 months ago
Reply to  Kontrapunkt17

There is self-testing, but if you don’t know what to do with it, I would visit a doctor or medical practitioner specialising in chronic diseases and perform a complete anamnese.

Zalla55
6 months ago

I already had 2x Covid despite 6 vaccinations. Interestingly, only at the end of 2023 and recently. Both times only with slight symptoms that I would have perceived without test as “normal” grippal infect.

Maybe the vaccinations have made sure that I was not more often infected and had only a slight course. This was worth the thing, especially since my vaccination reactions were practically zero (short pressure pain at puncture site).

Regilindis
6 months ago

Since I,

love/r contrast point,

To this day, I have still not had a corona, as I have a more than very good immune system by constantly training this, I assume that your immune system may not be in the best condition! So that you suffer from an infection much faster, such as the corona virus!

So if you want to protect yourself from a new infection in the future, you should try to systematically stabilise and improve your immune system!

Good luck and good luck!

Reglindis

Wolpertinger
6 months ago

there are people who infect themselves again and again.
Why you don’t know.
Only guesses

Huflattich
6 months ago
Reply to  Wolpertinger

The vaccination baptizes mM – obviously – nothing.

Wolpertinger
6 months ago
Reply to  Huflattich

You can mean what you want, I don’t know.

And when an opinion is called on sworn and FakeNews, it is worth nix.

hommage
6 months ago

Thus, according to EMA, the vaccination is not only helpful against infection but even dangerous.

Zalla55
6 months ago
Reply to  hommage

EMA?

hommage
6 months ago
Reply to  Zalla55

European Medicines Agency

hommage
6 months ago

I have summarized it in 10 points

  1. Transfer not prevented : The vaccines were not allowed to prevent the transmission of the virus from one person to another. Their only authorised purpose was personal protection, and there were no data demonstrating their role in reducing portability.
  2. No clinical test data for Omikron XBB.1.5 : There were no specific clinical test data available for vaccines adapted to the Omikron XBB.1.5 sub-variant. This raised concerns about their admission to a public health emergency.
  3. Environmental risk through genetically modified organisms (GMOs) : Concerns have been expressed regarding the lack of environmental risk assessments for products containing GMOs, although it has been clear that mRNA vaccines do not fall into this category.
  4. Side effects and monitoring : While side effects are monitored, the report highlights that after vaccination reported adverse events are not always directly related to the vaccine itself. However, known risks such as myocarditis and pericarditis have been recognised as significant concerns.
  5. Long-term immunity : The letter emphasizes that vaccines do not provide long-term immunity, which some consider to be lacking. The fact that vaccines offer only less than one year protection has been mentioned as a possible restriction.
  6. Myocarditis and pericarditis risk : The vaccines were associated with the risk of myocarditis and pericarditis. These risks are mentioned in the product information. This indicates that these risks were known, but may not have been sufficiently stressed.
  7. BMJ articles on clinical trial problems : An article by the BMJ reported problems with Pfizer’s vaccine studies, in particular with the job research institute Ventavia. Although the supervisory authorities classified the deficiencies as uncritical, they created scepticism with regard to the integrity of the study data.
  8. Complexity of product documentation : The summary of the product properties of vaccines is considered too complex, which could make it difficult for medical professionals and the general public to give informed consent.
  9. Quality problems with mRNA integrity : Concerns regarding the integrity of mRNA in vaccines were expressed, although supervisory authorities found that these problems did not affect the general safety or efficacy of vaccines.
  10. Legal and regulatory concerns : The letter calls into question the legality of the market authorisations of vaccines and raises concerns regarding the changes in EU regulations and directives which are intended to allow for rapid authorisation of COVID-19 vaccines.
Zalla55
6 months ago

Lots of stuff. Let’s translate and fly. In the end there is a resumée:

The CHMP of the EMA can only recommend a suspension of authorisations if the evidence shows that the risks outweigh the benefits. The evidence continues to show that vaccines provide protection, which is particularly important for endangered people. The removal of these vaccines as an option for EU Member States and for health professionals without due consideration of the available data would therefore be a major bear service for the EU and public health.

That doesn’t sound dangerous.

hommage
6 months ago

2023_10_18_Letter_to_MEP_Marcel_de_Graaff_Request_for_the_direct.pdf

Enter this at google, then you will automatically download

hommage
6 months ago

I’d like to give you the original letter to read. But good question forbids the link here

Zalla55
6 months ago

And the European Commission has admitted that vaccines have been approved, but at the same time it has been classified as dangerous? It’s unlikely.

hachri
6 months ago

There are people who are vaccinated four times and had Corona five times. And again, there are people who never let themselves be inoculated and never had Corona.

Huflattich
6 months ago
Reply to  hachri

And again, there are people who never let themselves be inoculated and never had Corona.

Right, why?

Maybe it’s because we all wanted to be transparent *****.

This technology should be admitted for years (since 1990 -golf war) but it has not. Now because of the panic about Corona, she finally got her also for the treatment of cancer….

Let us comfort ourselves – as you hear it again and again – with an allegedly mild course when it catches us again despite “vaccination”.

What else is left to you?

BBasti89M
6 months ago
Reply to  hachri

It may be, but it does not help. You can simply refer to chance. That would be a good idea to tell the FS that his personal experience is coincidence.

Butterfly123778
6 months ago

You have to think, right? Vaccination weakens the immune system and the infection removes the body as nutrients, especially B vitamins. That’s why it is.

Wolpertinger
6 months ago

Vaccination is exactly the opposite.

You seem the principle of vaccination

to have understood.

Butterfly123778
6 months ago
Reply to  Wolpertinger

I think I understood it very well:-)

BBasti89M
6 months ago

tja, that’s wrong.

PachamamaSquaw
4 months ago

The vaccination weakens the immune system

No, that’s wrong.

= incompetent nonsense!

Rapunzel324
4 months ago
Reply to  PachamamaSquaw

It's a fake that GF has been spread more often. Anyone who spreads a fake in medical forums is temporarily blocked for 3 months, with repetition in duration.

This would normally have to be known by now:

https://www.dw.com/de/faktencheck-nein-corona-vaccinations-schw%C3%A4chen-unsere-immune-non/a-59028649

Butterfly123778
4 months ago
Reply to  PachamamaSquaw

It’s your reality. you see how negative triggers you quite normal contributions and you cover everything that does not fit into your world image as a nonsense, incompetent etc. It says a lot about you 🙂 Vaccination will certainly not strengthen your system. Strengths do: aminos and nutrients as well as a healthy lifestyle. Easy!

Butterfly123778
4 months ago

Congratulations!

PachamamaSquaw
4 months ago

Keep your illness.

Now you’re writing nonsense again,

for incurable, chronic diseases

you can’t pass on/off!

👉 Keep it anyway! 😹

It is your truth that good nutrition and vital substances do not do your body well.

Bullshit!

What you say about me here,

does not agree first and is second

and threeth support❗️

And btw:

I feed myself as ever and ever very

healthy, full and balanced

with all vital substances, mineral substances,

Vitamins, etc…. 🥳👍

Butterfly123778
4 months ago

Oh, my God. Keep your illness. It is your truth that good nutrition and vital substances do not do your body well. They do it to me and hey – I’m going to live! If you don’t have a bock to come with you – no thing!

PachamamaSquaw
4 months ago

So, false information and lies do you call “normal contributions”? What you tell me now is also total nonsense! 🤦🏻

Wolpertinger
6 months ago

😂😂😂😂 just that I don’t spread FakeNews.

Please let your source know that one vaccination weakens the immune system

I am very excited

Butterfly123778
6 months ago

I also like to return: Spread fakeNewes and declare as knowledge says enough about you;-)

Wolpertinger
6 months ago

Spread fakeNewes and declare as knowledge already says enough about you.

Butterfly123778
6 months ago

This comment says more about you than about me – very much ugly – why?

Wolpertinger
6 months ago

You think – you don’t notice