Card valid without NFC chip?

The title is unfortunate, actually I mean the opposite.

Anyway, whatever. I live in Saarland and have an annual train and tram pass here. The cards have an NFC chip built into them so you can hold the card up to the readers on the buses and have their validity checked.

I've removed these chips from cards for fun before, and I was thinking about doing the same with this card. Then I could reattach the NFC chip somewhere else, on my phone case or something.

Now my question is, would this be possible if I simply held the NFC chip up to the ticket reader on the conductor or bus and could theoretically show the card separately? Or would removing the NFC chip invalidate it?

Thanks in advance for the answers 🙂

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SandraWuerthner
3 years ago

I'd leave it.

In Australia, there was such a case, because someone had a ticket to be converted into an implant – then got angry. The text is English:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-16/opal-card-implant-man-pleads-guilty-transport-offences/9555608

In Sweden, things are different, for example, the tickets of the public transport, which by means of NFC do not go up a name and you can recharge them – there is no problem.

Wiesel
3 years ago

This can at worst be a manipulation of a document. That would be really unpleasant.

verreisterNutzer
3 years ago

On the map, I can see a card number, and name + first name appear to be on it, so this card also serves a purely optical checkability, so that chip and card in doubt could only be valid together.

RoadRage3
3 years ago

Hello,

that would be a question that should be taken from the contract details. If there is a corresponding clause that the ticket is valid only in "complete, undamaged form", you should not remove it.

In doubt, please ask the relevant company whether a modification (with the exclusion of the alteration of the values ​​present on the chip) is allowed, ie, for example, the "construction" of the actual chip "in" of the outside of the purse.

Ben

SonOfMyMum
3 years ago

Basically, one can say that the chip belongs to the card (was issued in this way). If you now remove a relevant component of the card, it can in principle no longer be dubiously determined whether the performance you get through the card is also such (the chip could also be of someone else)

SonOfMyMum
3 years ago
Reply to  Grebo

The bus driver etc. can only not read the data from the chip directly. It only looks valid or not. But who the chip is now, he can't see. The name on the map