Can my teacher give me a 6 for plagiarism?
I'm asking because a friend of mine has this problem. She put hours into this presentation and suffered several mental breakdowns because of it, and now the teacher simply wants to give her a 6 without any evidence because the text looks like Chatgpt.
Is he allowed to do that? Without evidence, if it's not even true?
Thank you for your answers🥰
PS: Please no stupid answers, because… that's annoying. Thanks.
Hey,
you have obviously already read you into an answer from me with similar content 😉
I would recommend asking the teacher to explain what he is convinced that it is plagiarism. He's got to fix it to something. The abdominal feeling alone wouldn't be enough in my eyes. In any case, not for a 6, because even if, in all its searches and the preparation of the presentation content, it should not only have used Google and secondary literature, but (purely hypothetical) should also have used ChatGPT for an explanation/disclosure of any facts, then at least the performance of the lecture appeared, the question whether it is content/fold correct, whether it was complete or whether it was essential, etc. All of this would have to flow into the note.
Yes, plagiarism/description is sometimes difficult to prove and also the reasoned suspicion is theoretically entitled to draw consequences.
Example: in a class work some pupils have recently written off by a good fellow student. This was not noticed during the work, but at the correction it was noticed that everyone sitting around him have solved the task exactly the same. Includes the computational error that the central student has made and some have “worn off”. Thus, in one line a zero was a zero, in the next line a 6 and later a zero again. There, the one from which it was written, probably had an undeniable handwriting and the descriptors could not distinguish the zero from the 6. Here was very clearly written off, but it could not be proven 100%. The students concerned got the chance to reckon the task again and explain what they did and oh miracles, only one could explain what he did. The others don't.
These pupils did not evaluate the tasks, but only those who were not (so obviously) written off, which naturally led to poorer grades.
So you see, teachers have a certain scope for action and they are not stupid and have experience. Such a feeling is often not about.
However, teachers – like all people – can make mistakes and mistakes themselves.
In this case, I would therefore seek the conversation with the teacher, to tell him how the preparation was going, what sources were used, to ask him to justify his suspicion and, if necessary, also to get the school board. For the teacher should also be concerned that his obviously very controversial decision is taken by the school management. For short or long, he'll probably get back from the head of the school. So that could also initiate your girlfriend. This also has a more stable effect.
By the way, the 1:1 write off from books would also be a kind of copying and, if it appears, could lead to a minor note.
I'm curious how it works! I'll push her thumbs when your girlfriend deserves it! 😉
If it is a plagiarism then the 6 is justified. In addition, it is easy to find out whether or not Chatgpt has been worked, and it is actually very interesting
But that's the problem, it's NO plagiarism. She sat there for several weeks and put so much work in, she didn't use AI and did not commit a plagiarism!
That's why I think it's so weird.
Then she should put herself on her feet and make it clear, but the presentation was also bad…
Well, to get a 6 on a presentation, it has to be more than a little bad, right?
The girlfriend gave her to us (in advance, without the nervousness) and I found her well.
Yeah, I judge that.
Do you judge that?
He told her that she probably gets a six because she used Chatgpt. The presentation was not as bad as it was, for a 6 you have to get a good idea…
If the presentation was very bad even without plagiarism and without chatgpt, a 6 is also a mark. Why can't he?
But he can't judge a bad presentation because of a non-existent plagiarism with a 6!
Of course he can't. If he does, report accordingly.
Everybody else here says something else… but I think just like you…
Because all others have only read the title and not your indication that it is not a documented plagiarism. Don't take serious 🙂
If he is forbidden to press her the six, report parents and go to school
Always happy!
Thank you.
May he
Why? She didn't use it, and he can't tell you how he likes it!
But he can do without references. The burden of proof lies with students and not with teachers.
Mm, I notice if someone is so embarrassed by himself that he thinks he can judge others…
I'm always right
Well, she didn't. Now you can think about whether you're an outsider, or I'm a friend.
No, that Christmas is in summer
What? That she committed a plagiarism?
But he and he found it
Why? Did you listen to the presentation?
The teacher cannot check all the sources within the 20 minutes of a presentation to check them out!
Apparently only 2 of 21
It has indicated sources.