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Kelec
1 year ago

This shouldn't affect the Wi-Fi. However, it could be that the router is acting up a bit. Simply restart the router, and that's it.

By the way, carrying out a DOS attack on a friend is not illegal, but if the operator's hardware is disrupted then it is.

So if the error has to be fixed by the internet provider then you will probably have to bear the costs.

Kelec
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy Edberg

Well, if turning it off and on again isn't enough, then test whether other devices have normal internet access or not.

If the error is only visible on your friend's PC, then restart the PC.

kIMPsh
8 months ago
Reply to  Kelec

Hardware damage is ruled out, as the only thing that really takes damage is the bandwidth. However, since this is digital and not hardware-based, nothing can be damaged by defects. Home attacks are usually DHCP or ICMP attacks paired with a clean UDP flood. Since we all know that UDP relies on GBPs and not PPS, the hardware is not overloaded. What can happen with large botnets is that bots do not abort the attack because the connection to the CNC is lost, thus continuing the attack. This can lead to the internet connection remaining restricted beyond the attack or even failing completely. It is then only a matter of time before the provider easily blocks the connection or the router's IP address changes.

Kelec
8 months ago
Reply to  kIMPsh

I didn't talk about hardware damage, but rather hardware malfunctions.

What this means is that if the attack disrupts the provider's infrastructure, the provider can take action against the attacker regardless of whether he was the direct target of the attack or not.

Kelec
8 months ago

That's not the core of the original question. The original question was whether one could be prosecuted for attacking a friend.

The simple answer is: as long as the friend doesn't report it, there's no judge. The same applies if he allows the attack for whatever reason. The question here depends on the friend's decision.

If you accidentally access the ISP's infrastructure, the ISP itself can also report it.

kIMPsh
8 months ago

Jede Art von DDoS Angriffe sind strafbar und fallen unter Computer sabotage.

Kelec
8 months ago

Correct, and if the attack, for whatever reason, disrupts hardware appliances or other services of the ISP, then the ISP can file a complaint, and that was the point from the beginning.

kIMPsh
8 months ago

The statement is actually self-evident, since that is exactly the goal, one should not target a server and use a TCP method

Kelec
8 months ago

No, you misunderstood, I didn't write that hardware would be damaged…..

I wrote that hardware in the sense of hardware appliances, i.e. routers, switches, hardware firewalls etc. are disrupted, which is something different.

kIMPsh
8 months ago

Your statement was referring to damage, which I denied. It's not possible to "damage" hardware with a DDoS attack. Disruption is possible within such an attack, but it's not possible for the hardware in a device to be damaged as a result.

Kelec
8 months ago

Which method is chosen here is completely irrelevant for the statement.

Furthermore, equating a SWITCH with a ROUTER is a bit unpleasant

I don't either.

My point is simply that there can be legal problems if you interfere with the ISP's equipment, whether it's a server, switch, router, hub, or anything else, and it doesn't matter what method you use for the attack.

As soon as you interfere with the ISP, they can take legal action against you. I won't say anything more than that. What's so hard to understand about that?

kIMPsh
8 months ago

I hate to say it again. Home methods are UDP-based and don't use TCP traffic. Since SYN is a TCP packet type, your statement doesn't make sense. Besides, equating a SWITCH with a ROUTER is a bit awkward.

Kelec
8 months ago

Malfunction does not equal defect!

A DDOS attack that overloads bandwidth and thus prevents a server, switch, or router from doing its job also falls under this category. Of course, it's a question of where you draw the line between hardware and software, but if a switch, whose job it is to forward packets, is no longer able to do so, I would call it a malfunction. The switch itself falls under network hardware.

So if you impair the functionality of a router, switch or other component of the ISP for whatever reason during a DDOS attack, which is certainly possible with Syn Flood DOS attacks, then that is a criminal offense.

kIMPsh
8 months ago

HARDWARE interference is not possible, as I described above. It is always bandwidth-based in home attacks.

Kelec
1 year ago

So if restarting the router doesn't help in this case, there's probably no other option than to call the troubleshooting service if it doesn't work again tomorrow.

Sparrow75
1 year ago

Mรถglicherweise hat sich der Router aufgehangen.

Sparrow75
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy Edberg

Stromkabel abziehen

LiveWards
1 year ago

Apart from the fact that this is totally illegal, there will be no long-term damage to the router.

LiveWards
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy Edberg

Don't worry:)

Asurox1986
1 year ago

Goal achieved, I would say.

Asurox1986
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeremy Edberg

Hoffe ihr habt daraus gelernt. ๐Ÿ™‚