Bruttolohn Abgaben etc?

Liebe Community,

Ich hatte bislang stets nur Nettolohn bezogen. Aus meinem Minijob bekomme ich zur Zeit 430€ Netto ( + / – 10€) und Jetzt srbeite ich seit dem 01. 06. in einem Einzelhandel für einen Bruttolohn von 881€ den ich so auch am Ende des Monats ausgezahlt bekommen soll. Nun bin ich irgendwie verwirrt mit den ganzen Steuerklassen und was ich wie wohin von meinem lohn an Steuern und so weiter zahlen muss. Und vor allem : welcher Job gehört nun in welche Steuerklasse und was bedeutet das für mich und meinen Lohn?

Ich wäre euch sehr dankbar wenn ihr mir das hier erklären könntet und nicht einfach einen Brutto-Netto Rechner hier reinpostet o.Ä.

Ich bedanke mich schonmal für die Antworten im Voraus.

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DerSchopenhauer
2 years ago

The mini-job is exercised with tax features (due to your information) – i.e. it must be taxed.

  • One of the two jobs now gets tax class VI.

If the new job has registered you as the main employer (probably this applies), the Minijob will receive tax class VI (approximately 50 € wage tax).

If the new job has registered you as a secondary worker, the new job receives the tax class VI (that would be much more unfavorable at the moment) – then it would have to be changed by an ArbG.

You are then obliged to make a tax return (due to tax class VI).

The mini-job could also be changed for flat-rate taxation – then it no longer plays a role in taxing.

siola55
2 years ago

First, you should agree with your mini-job employer that he the 2% flat-rate tax paid for you; If necessary, this 2% flat-rate tax will keep you from the net wage by your mini-job employer! Has the advantage that the wage tax class 1 can be used for your main job and your mini-job wage does not have to be specified at all in your Ek tax statement!

I’ve been working since 01. 06. in retail
for a gross wage of 881€ which I should get paid out at the end of the month

This is now a major employment in the long term, i.e. Midijob or just a holiday job as Short term employment, so social insurance-free???

siola55
2 years ago
Reply to  TheCleaner88

Then you have a midijob and are full of social insurance:

If a worker regularly earns 450.01 to 1.300 euros per month, he is in the so-called Transitional area. Its employment Midijob.

Cheap Social Security for Midijobber

A midijobber does not have to pay full social security contributions, but is nevertheless comprehensive in health, nursing, pension and unemployment insurance. Its contribution is directed within the transition region according to a fictitious value which is determined via a formula.

https://www.minijob-zentrale.de/DE/01_minijobs/01_basiswissen/04_more_als_450/node.html

wilees
2 years ago

881 Euro brutto – according to slide-zone calculator …. means for you = 153,90 Euro deductions for social contributions.

https://www.smart-computer.de/midijob/computer.php

The deductions are automatically transferred to the social security system – you will only receive your net fee.

In the case of wage tax class I – single person without child – pay tax would only be charged from a monthly income of 1151,X Euro

siola55
2 years ago
Reply to  wilees

Level 1 is already awarded at the Minijob :-((

wilees
2 years ago
Reply to  siola55

For me, the first sentences of the question were as if the minijob had ended with the takeover of the midijob.

If not the gliding zone calculator would be used, but the full 50% social security contributions would be retained.

However, FS could easily carry out a mini-job alongside a midijob – that is, the AG could also take over the flat-rate 2% wage tax in addition to social security contributions.

https://www.steuerclass.com/nebenjob/midijobs/

Can you have a minijob next to the midijob?

Midijobber often wonders if it is possible to take a minijob next to the midijob. This is definitely possible. The midijob is social insurance and the minijob is considered to be admissible secondary employment – a combination that is becoming increasingly popular.

wilees
2 years ago

Or for a fee ……… without further admissions of the FS, no additional assistance is possible here.

I guess once again someone tried very ignorantly to formulate his question.

siola55
2 years ago

…and now I’ve been working since 01. 06. in retail for a gross wage of 881€ which I should get paid out at the end of the month

So net paid for gross would be black work or did I misunderstand the FS??

Or does the FS mean Short term Employment???

SweetKitty36849
2 years ago

But such a computer is very helpful. You feed him with your personal data and he spit out your net wage. 🤷 ♀️ This is exactly the basis of the information that is not in your question.

SweetKitty36849
2 years ago
Reply to  TheCleaner88

It’s all dressed. What you get on your account is the net wage. You’re allowed to hit him completely.

Your employer will pay all charges for you.

siola55
2 years ago

But this would be black work…

SweetKitty36849
2 years ago

(But I don’t want to lean too far out of the window with the tax classes.)

DerSchopenhauer
2 years ago

881 € are subject to tax and social insurance = Surplus SV = less than normal – wage tax does not apply to tax class I, II, III, IV = ca. 724 € net

SweetKitty36849
2 years ago

I’d say class 6. For both jobs. Because as a person you get a tax class.

Half of your social security contributions must: the employer. There is absolutely no plausible reason why he should not pay the full share, just like any other employer. I can’t imagine that this is allowed at all.

SweetKitty36849
2 years ago

Haeäääääääää? You shall all social security, unemployment, pension and health insurance and taxeshimself abduct!? 😳

Sorry, but this is completely absurd. 🤷