Bronze oder Messing?
Ich habe diese Schale aus Erbnachlass.
Gefunden habe ich diese Schale/ Aschenbecher im Internet bereits über die Bildersuche.
Allerdings nur einmal mit diesem Muster. Dort stand in der Beschreibung das es Messing sei.
Ich hätte es gerne noch abgeglichen um ganz sicher zu sein. Allerdings habe ich die Schale mit dem Muster nur einmal gefunden. Diese Art Schalen gibt es unter anderem in Messing und Bronze.
Leider kenne ich mich bezüglich dem Material nicht aus und wollte fragen ob jemand weiss um welches Material es sich handelt, vllt. sogar Namen der Person die solche Schalen vllt. sogar mit dem Muster hergestellt hat und aus welchem Jahr das ist.
Danke für Eure Hilfe.
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The yellowish color could rather indicate brass, copper is rather reddish-brown. However, it can theoretically also be that it is a mixture of copper and other yellowish-tinged metals. Since both brass and copper are not magnetic, the test does not help…. It is not so easy to determine the exact material as a lay without corresponding equipment (such as for measuring the conductivity) and without damaging the part.
I can’t help you any more, but for your question, GoodFrage may also be a thematically too wide-ranging platform. If no one can give you a satisfactory answer, try it in forums about antiques. You’d rather find people with such niche knowledge. e.g. https://www.kunst-und-troedel.info/forum/index.php?board/82-metall/
The slightly reddish color is definitely a good info. The shell is actually slightly reddish, which the camera could not catch well.
And thanks for the link!
LG 🍀
I suppose you’ve solved your problem by now?
If you want to know exactly, go to a test laboratory where metal alloys are checked. There, so-called spark spectrometers are used, also called optical emission spectrometers. These are hand tools that can be used to show exactly which metals and other alloy components are contained therein. It’s also called “sounding.” The method is non-destructive. With us there are things in material testing, sawing and workshops. Reference materials are deposited in the devices, since alloys can change during the course of decades in production. They therefore indicate, for example, that is the steel alloy and the older type, is no longer produced since 1978, – etc. This allows you to check your item.
Probably the shell is not very old, certainly not over 100 years.
The value should therefore be rather low.
Bronze or brass, for reading: https://leadrp.net/de/blog/brass-or-bronze-what-is-better/
Hm. So I didn’t want to know the value, but if someone knows what it could be, if someone knows the creator etc.
And what better I didn’t ask. I could googlen myself.
But still thanks for the attempt and for the answer. 🍀
The bowl looks like brass for me.
If there is no label on the bottom, no one can find out.
It could be both.
Bronze is alloyed with antimony, arsenic, aluminum, lead, manganese or and phor. Depending on the requirement. Guitar strings must have different characteristics than an ashtray, a plastic, keychain, lighter, …
I don’t even know if there are price differences between brass and bronze.
There are great price and quality differences in phosphor bronze strings.