Brauche frei bis September. Wie ist das mit länger als 30 Tage unbezahlt wegen Abmeldung?

Hallo folgende Situation ich brauche ab Mitte nächster Woche bis einschließlich der ersten September Woche frei.

Ich habe noch 27 Tage Urlaub und würde dann auch einen Teil unbezahlt nehmen. Mit meinem Arbeitgeber ist dies abgesprochen und genehmigt er sagte mir aber nur ich soll beachten, dass wenn ich länger als 30 Tage unbezahlt frei mache er mich dann Sozialversicherungspflichtig ab und anmelden muss.

Beziehen die 30 Tage sich jetzt am Stück oder 30 Tage Gesamt in einem Jahr?

Ich würde es dann so machen und nächste Woche eine halbe Woche Urlaub machen, dann den gesamten Juli unbezahlt frei machen, dann den gesamten August meinen Urlaub nehmen das wären dann 22 Tage und die erste September Woche würde ich nochmal unbezahlt nehmen.

Wäre diese Konstellation so ok, dass mein Arbeitgeber mich dann NICHT abmelden muss?

Und beziehen sich diese 30 Tage auf Kalendertage oder Arbeitstage?

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dieLuka
8 months ago

I’d talk to the AG.

For the 30 days, as far as I know, if you don’t get a calendar month, no contributions to the KV etc. will be paid. However, the KV must be paid every month, there is also a duty to KV. If the AG does not have to pay for the month otherwise (speak you). That’s why it’s on and off.

Personally, therefore, I would not make a month unpaid, but would look at what the AG says as a beautiful little brand. When you work Mo-Fr has about 20-23 working days a month. If you make max 15 on the piece unpaid you have paid vacation days every month and thus no calendar month without payment to the KV.

dieLuka
8 months ago

The start and unsubscribe fun does not begin until the end of 2nd month. He’ll come as soon as you’re over the month.

Why do you want to let it go exactly to the deadline?

dieLuka
8 months ago

Just when the AG is involved, it should solve the problem. But talk to him again for sure that you don’t experience any surprises.

dieLuka
8 months ago

If you take the unpaid to the border, there is a risk that what goes wrong, as always when you spread borders. If you have one or two paid days in between, there is no risk.

I don’t want you to take any more unpaid than you have to. You shall use the paid to break the unpaid into smaller blocks.

Rechne how many unpaid you need and then just paid, unpaid, paid, unpaid… This does not change the number of days, but only breaks it on that you don’t get to the 30 days of the deadline.

cafibone
8 months ago

Holiday refers to weekdays Mo – Fr. weekend is not expected

DerCaveman
8 months ago
Reply to  cafibone

It is important to see whether the holiday claim is exhausted in working days or in working days. He is legally in working days and then steal the Saturdays.

DerCaveman
8 months ago

It doesn’t matter how many days you work in the week, but whether the holiday entitlement exists in working days or in working days.

GutenTag2003
8 months ago

And do these 30 days relate to calendar days or working days?

30 days = 30 – uninterrupted – calendar days

GutenTag2003
8 months ago
GutenTag2003
8 months ago

For clarity

. So, the first month of the unpaid holiday is insured. After that, the insurance cover ends via the employer and the employer is legally obliged to unsubscribe to the employee. After a month, the employee or employees must take care that he or she is insured

. Starts the unpaid holiday on the 5th. July, insurance cover ends on 4 August.

https://factorialhr.de/blog/unpaid leave/#:~:text=Also%2C%20ofthefirst%20month%20ofthe,er%20or%20she%20 insured%20.