BMW E34 als Anfängerauto?
Guten Tag.
Ich suche mit seit längerem ein Auto mit einem Budget von +-3000€ und habe eine 95% BMW Priorisierung weil ich Bekannte in einer BMW Fachwerkstatt habe in der ich das Auto selber mit ihrem Werkzeug und Mitarbeiterrabatt reparieren könnte falls es zu einem Defekt kommt. Auf meiner suche bin ich auf den E34 gestoßen und direkt verliebt. Habe mich auch großflächig über das Auto, die Schwachstellen, die verschiedenen Motorisierungen usw. erkundigt in dem ein 520i und 525i meinen Erwartungen entsprechen würde. Ich weiß dass diese Motorisierung sich hauptsächlich nicht für Anfänger eignet, aber ich sitze schon mehrere Jahre hinter dem Steuer.
Meine Frage wäre wie viel mich der ganze Spaß kosten würde im Monat/Jahr. Die Versicherungskosten und die Steuern habe ich schon grob recherchieren können aber genaue Instandhaltungskosten hab ich jetzt nicht gefunden. Könnten Sie mir vielleicht dabei weiterhelfen?
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The E34 has been a good car for the time being, in my environment ran from the gay 518i automatic over various 520i and 525i up to the M5 (the with 340 hp) of each E34, were limousines without exception. I always liked to drive them even though I am much closer to Opel and Mercedes.
For a beginner, this is a huge box, but on the other hand I had a 1989 Audi 100 from the end of 2008, which was and must say even longer than the E34 – that worked and was fine. If you can pay it from the cost, why not. A later 520i with airbags and ABS from 1994/95 is still so modern today that it can be appropriate in everyday life – with Euro 2 and 150 hp the conversation is not really expensive.
However, the problem with the E34 is today, even to find one that is original, which has lasted for years in half well, has been reasonably waited, from the sheet is still quite reasonable and not too expensive.
Graving vulnerabilities are strong rust susceptibility here, the undersized chassis parts, the electrics as in the E39, but above all general maintenance failures – hardly any E34 is receiving more maintenance in the sense of BMW AG today, which is also reflected in a self-stable car in the state and limits the further durability – as already mentioned the poor availability of passable specimens.
Unfortunately, the onions now outweigh, good E34 there are 24 years after the limousine production was stopped and 23 years after the end of the combined production, more and more rare, especially since the E34 was a typical victim candidate for the scrapping premium in 2009. Beautiful, not as expensive reindeer cars as with the Audi 100, Mercedes 124/210 or Opel Omega/Ford Scorpio are always what appears here are absolute shortages … they were cheap around 2005 times, have been broken down by young heaters and have been partially disposed of at the scrapping premium because they have been pooled within a few years. You don’t need to look for them because they don’t exist anymore.
Today, the E34 is at best as 520i still in a passable third-hand state in which you can say “okay, why not” but usually very expensive, because any hipsters always think that this is a “Kult Youngtimer” and “Liebhaberstück” – for which they then call reddish prices before you wonder that no one is eating. In most cases, such cars with reference to the motorization are already written out in the Ebay heading (“M50B20” or so) and the reference to “change also for…”; you know the Leier with all these years – is in the Opel and Mercedes scene in which I move, not so bad, but at BMW in the area of E30 and E34 is currently almost a disease.
It is not worth it or fails on various reasons. If you like the 5-BMWs, the E39 Vorfacelift Limousine is the better, more modern car. In addition, the E39 is usually fair at the price, because no cult youngtimer and as 520i not very much in demand, because the whole “boys” want strong gasoline for the strong appearance before the Disse^^ but this is now your chance of a good car! Here you are very well advised with a 520i with 150 hp and manual switching – best as I said before the Facelift 2000, which not only deteriorated the grate protection. The limousines in front of the E39 facelift were very rust-proof, neuralgic places – and this is rather rare – trunk flaps on the sheet metal fold above the number plate or door edges as well as unfurnished stone chips on the hood near the BMW kidneys. There can be yellowed headlights, but usually involves multi-drive cars without garage space.
I have to hook up. The E39 is always a grate, whether as LCI, or not. He himself had one in 1997 since 2005, and read me most intensively in forums. Typical places (including my): car lift, tailgate, door fold. With me, the sleeper was through, almost in the middle. When I looked into an endoscope, I only saw guards on both sides. Too bad about this beautiful car that would have earned a full galvanization, as at the time the direct competitor named Audi A6 C5.
The A6 had reliability problems of all kinds.
I liked the Opel Omega B as a facelift from this class in these years, as I had driven it for several years. A car with a very peculiar, wooden character and difficult pensioner image – mine also came from a man born in 1926 – but always much better than his reputation and as a facelift no more, technically finally matured and well processed.
Yeah, the Omega B Facelift was good. Unfortunately bad six-cylinders and chronically leaky end gears
Don’t think you’ll find usable 520 with the budget, let alone 525i.
Find a 3 or the successor E39.
When one shows up, most of them aren’t even so expensive, one sees from the offers of any hipster – but there are just as good as no more.
That’s what it looks like, it looked after a while a year ago. Few specimens, all either barrels without soil or expensive or both.
I don’t think so.
Diesel and automatic are always “from the opa” and then even for less than 1000 euros in the reasonable state – but then stop without climate, in boring color, without alus and with little performance, and that is exactly what the market does not want. At BMW, everyone always wants the thickest six-cylinder – and at the E34 the 525i is already “understood”.
If an E34 is necessary at all, then a 520i is completely enough and it is usually much more well maintained than the 525i, which was often cheaply stolen 10-15 years ago and has been driven by any Kiddies who bought black rear lights, a 99 Euro CD radio from the media market and cheap Alus and then wanted to indicate before the Disse. Very many 525i have been destroyed in this way, the 520i automatic remained in the first hand with the nice grandpa and is still well maintained today (service booklet, etc.) for little money to find. Just don’t want anyone… you can just say that problem is homemade.
Yes, have forgotten to mention that I only searched for hand-held gasoline (as the FS probably also wants).
Right!
In some cases there is still good for little money, but this is then a 520i automatic in waste paper beige or a 525tds in Nauticgreen and wanders into the export because nobody wants this anymore.
Why not – if you find a beautiful one. Basically, the E34 is solid, only a lot of scrap is on the market, the model is already available for more than 3 decades. Good goods cost money. This also applies to exclusive engines and models (V8 or M5 for example), as well as to spare parts. Although they can still be ordered almost all thanks to BMW Classic, they cost money.
If there’s one more in here: I bought the E34 520i 24V Vanos Executive. Completely serviced checkbook (25 years), wheel runs / sills / car lifts completely rust-free (but a little rust on a door inside) in the complete original state. (2. hand -> both times pensioner) The car was always only waiting for BMW. From the deficiencies, it is still in the ramen (the biggest so far is flaming clarinet because of sunlight) and you can repair the many petty things well with the “So wills Gemacht E34” book. To date, I am absolutely satisfied with the car, only it is still difficult to press with the car into certain parking spaces;)
The cost was less than € 2500.
Precise maintenance costs cannot be determined either. Not at all with an older car. If you’re lucky, nothing happens if you’re bad luck, you’ll be in the workshop every few months.
You should always have something “less” for the repair of your own car. If you have a buffer of €1,000 per year for repairs/inspection, you are actually on the safe side.
I will always have a certain buffer to make the most necessary reperatures, but I would like to calculate whether it is possible at all with a costly monthly income of about 300€ to be able to withstand everything. (The buffer stems from other sources of income)
With 300€? Never ever!
I can still enjoy the Mama hotel. I also calculated my further expenses, and then I would have €300 for the car per month. The rest/buffer comes through various holiday jobs/benefits
As a starter, I would appreciate that about 80-100 insurance will be due. Once full-fuelled, there’s a 100. I used to drive an E34 for a time (530, i.e., an eighth), which was with love to bring to 10l. But that was an obstacle to traffic. He was able to move in 16l. The 525 won’t be much better. Old engine, heavy car, power comes from the fuel.
No matter, 300€… can be close to the car. What else do you live on?
I still have Grob 2000€< which I want to finance the repairs every year. The 300€ should be roughly calculated for fuel, insurance and taxes.